Posted on Feb 16, 2016
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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RP Members this is one of those questions that got lost back in 2016 that is still a great question.

What would you do about this situation? Would you turn them in or comfront them first?

Would you have rights if you were a "whistleblower" against your immeidate supervisor or leader?

How many have been faced with this situation and can you share your story with the rest of the RP Group (no names please)?
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
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Can't recall ever directly being involved, but did see it played out. We had an unpopular Wing Commander who got selected for BG. He eventually got red lined for fraud waste and abuse actions associated with upgrades to the Wing HQ facility.
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SGT Richard Swanson
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My supply SGT was trading and receiving items from DRMO at Wright Patterson and not putting them on the books then selling and trading them. He traded a parts washer we received from maint. to use to clean weapons. One of our other NCO's from another Unit made a deal with him for the parts washer for some Jeep parts and tires and rims, I took a picture of the parts washer in the NCO's truck and went to my supervisor who ended up being friends with the supply SGT. I reported this to my Command Sargent Major he then contacted our Chief WO2 who was our Commander and had everyone write a statement, everyone involved wrote out the same statement word for word from the E-4 and the way up to E-7. The Commander and Command Sargent Major came to the Unit and called me into the office and threatened me with Court Marshal for writing a false statement. I talked with JAG officer and they said I needed to transfer out of the Unit then report this higher up the chain of command. The JAG officer said that if I did the ones involved would be loosing their rank and command. i could not get a transfer, the people involved from the Bn. Commander on down tried everything they could to get me busted in rank and put out of the military, they finely were able to get me put out on medial for type II dieabetic. I did what I thought was right and I would do it again.
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SGT Javier Silva
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I had a BC who wasn't a very good leader. He diverted monies that were supposed to go to a nonprofit organization (three of them actually), and he was giving military bought equipment away during my deployment. Our XO noticed a lot of irregularities and notified higher echelon. The BC was investigated as part of a 15-6 and was found guilty. The DoD later reversed the decision and the person was promoted to the next rank later. That XO retired.
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SGT James Murphy
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Geeezzzzzz.......... Enough Guys already don't trust us.........What are Ya trying to do?
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SGT James Murphy
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I think I need to change my ICON.....Who knows who this is???
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SGT James Murphy
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Ya'' Ok, REMEMBER THIS GUY? He's REAL. I know because in these meetings I was the guy sitting across from him.....
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Cpl Tyler Therrien
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Something serious like fraud which is a breech of public trust must be reported as would be theft, rape, murder etc. These things can not be overlooked & must be addressed even at the highest levels.
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Well for being a senior NCO and I found out my leader or immediate supervisor was breaking the law in some way or committing fraud I would tell him to go tell the commander and if not I would, cut and dry for it is called lead by example and in my opinion it is not being a whistleblower it is called doing the right thing and if the tables were turned around you can bet your bottom dollar that supervisor would burn your behind AR-15 plus the soldiers will see and hear about it so it is good to turn the thief in quickly,
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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In 1984 a crime was committed against my wife while I was Ft. Erwin for Desert Training; CID was involved and during their lack of an investigation her case had stalled, nothing was being done. I then confronted the CID Agent in which he threatened me. I started my own investigation using the freedom of information act when I learned that the person who committed the crime was under the protection of CID. This led me to go the FBI where I was told their was nothing they could do because the crime was on a Military Installation; however the FBI agent that I talked to had extensive knowledge of the person who committed the crime against my wife and that he was also a very active member in the KKK. This led me to trials court documentation and personal interviews where I learned a very Senior Officer on the post was also involved in the KKK as well as embezzlement. I took all the documentation to another Post Commander at a different post where the matter was investigated and I was reassigned, several months later my house was repossessed for late payments despite that fact that my payments were a payroll deduction and all payments were accounted for. I then received a phone call from my branch manager telling me that I hade a snow balls chance in hell of making E-5 and E-7 was out of the question. I retired in 2015 as an E-5 Sergeant with 25 years time in service and 17 years time in grade. I would do it all over again I had to, it is very bold decision and if anyone is going to be a whistle blower they should think long and hard. Their is no protection. I went to the board three times passed twice and failed once.
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SPC Russ Bolton
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Break the law get reported. When committing fraud costs everyone. Thieves cost others too much money. Doing right is hard enough to watch someone cheating the system. Be blessed
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SPC Jessica Padilla
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This all happened over the course of about 3 years, from 2008 -2011. I was deployed pregnant. Unit failed to do the 72hr prior pregnancy test on all the females. After spending a few weeks in Kuwait getting ready to go to Iraq, I had a feeling and decided to test it. It was positive, so I reported it to my squad leader. After medics confirmed, my team leader turned to me and point blank asked me if I was going to get an abortion to continue up to Iraq.

Another incident during that same time period, a 'friend' tried to hit me up for sex. He said that because I'm a female, its part of my job to satisfy the males in the unit, and then tried to grope me. He got told 'no' with my knee. Mind you, it was hardly a week into the deployment and we hadn't even gotten to Iraq yet. The next day I went to the chaplain and told him what happened. The chaplain agreed with this 'friend' and said that all women are for is to satisfy the needs of men and that I should've put out.

Just before leaving Camp Buehring, my CSM and BC promised me that within the month I would be dishonorably discharged. They tried their damnedest too. They said nothing to the 8 other females that returned under the same circumstances, many who got pregnant while deployed or baby daddy wasn't their husband... By time I got back to rear d they had about 10 sworn statements against me from a bunch of people I didn't know and a few that I knew. The one girl that I knew swore that she asked permission to be my room mate in the b's in September. Big kicker, my lease started in August for on post housing. After I showed the rear d commander my lease, suddenly none of it ever happened. I tried to report all of this to IG, but since the unit refused to provide me with any copies of anything, even though I requested copies (I was told I wasn't allowed any copies of any of the sworn statements under any circumstances), IG said they couldn't do anything.

In the end, from what I was later told, my company commander got retraining and then the boot. I tried to reenlist, he said no and barred me for 'mismanaging family' for daring to have kids after discussing my reenlistment with the same man that promised me a dishonorable discharge. Brigade commander investigated, Garrison commander (2-star gen. I think) looked into it, and I got to reenlist and my commander forced to complete retraining.

Gotta love the 130th.
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SSG Eric Blue
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A number of people would have gotten strangled (possibly to death) with my bare hands if I'd had been involved. I don't care what you may think of the situation...IT IS NOT RIGHT for ANYONE to be forced or coerced into sex! PERIOD! Even more so in the ranks! I'm very sorry that you were forced to endure these things. Your situation is why I became an Equal Opportunity Rep/Advisor and a SHARP Rep. So I can do what's in MY power to stop this kind of crap from happening. And as far as I'm concerned, that responsibility has no expiration date.
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Sgt John H.
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I guess it depends on the "what" they were doing. There are levels to confront and give a chance for them to do the right thing and their are things that must be turned in..
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