Posted on Feb 16, 2016
If you found out your Leader or Immediate Supervisor was doing something against the law, like fraud, what would you do?
161K
4.23K
733
355
355
0
RP Members this is one of those questions that got lost back in 2016 that is still a great question.
What would you do about this situation? Would you turn them in or comfront them first?
Would you have rights if you were a "whistleblower" against your immeidate supervisor or leader?
How many have been faced with this situation and can you share your story with the rest of the RP Group (no names please)?
What would you do about this situation? Would you turn them in or comfront them first?
Would you have rights if you were a "whistleblower" against your immeidate supervisor or leader?
How many have been faced with this situation and can you share your story with the rest of the RP Group (no names please)?
Fraud
What Would You Do
Toxic Leadership
Rights
Ethics
Edited 5 y ago
Posted 8 y ago
Responses: 416
3
3
0
I never found that situation while in the military. I found it in my civilian job after the military in a government agency. I made them do the right thing but eventually they ran me off my job. I sleep soundly and at the age of 74 I am glad I did it. Do the right thing you will not regret it in my old age.
(3)
(0)
3
3
0
3
3
0
Mike the written exam for Customs Inspector and for Immigration Inspector was fairly easy for me; I would say that about 75% of the questions were about honesty and integrity. You know - if you saw an inspector take cash out of a traveler’s suitcase And pocket it what would you do? One possible answer was to ask them for a cut of it; but the right answer was to report it. Does that make one a rat? In my opinion it would not.
In the military and in positions of trust - as in CBP, or other Law Enforcement positions our “employers” those “We the people” deserve that we maintain the highs of honesty and integrity; if someone doesn’t follow those rules I do not want to work beside them!
In the military and in positions of trust - as in CBP, or other Law Enforcement positions our “employers” those “We the people” deserve that we maintain the highs of honesty and integrity; if someone doesn’t follow those rules I do not want to work beside them!
(3)
(0)
3
3
0
3
3
0
It happened. Not my supervisor or leader but a fellow
Platoon Sergeant. He was caught loan sparking to young soldiers, E4 and below plus stealing blank checks out of troops rooms a writing the check out for large purchase. He was caught by a couple of us other Plt. Sgt. We testified on his court martial. Had to end the mans 18 year career.
Platoon Sergeant. He was caught loan sparking to young soldiers, E4 and below plus stealing blank checks out of troops rooms a writing the check out for large purchase. He was caught by a couple of us other Plt. Sgt. We testified on his court martial. Had to end the mans 18 year career.
(3)
(0)
3
3
0
3
3
0
I would not think it would be very wise to "expose yourself", so to speak and approach the person either before or after reporting them. That would be a "death sentence" on your future evaluation reports. Should you be career minded, it would affect the remainder of your entire career.
It would probably be best not to go to that supervisor's boss. Again, that might "let the cat out of the bag". That individual may either be aware of the situation or they may go straight to them and tell them what you reported as they make their inquiries.
It would be best to report it to the legal office of your command.
It would probably be best not to go to that supervisor's boss. Again, that might "let the cat out of the bag". That individual may either be aware of the situation or they may go straight to them and tell them what you reported as they make their inquiries.
It would be best to report it to the legal office of your command.
(3)
(0)
CWO4 Tim Hecht
Gunny - I retired in 2001 as a CWO4 after 4 years in the Navy and 26 years in the Coast Guard. As I was retiring the Coast Guard was changing the promotion process of CWOs - under the old system one just needed to meet the time in grade requirement and not have any "legal" issues. Now it's time in grade and go before a selection board. This wasn't an in person board but a review of a member's service record including Officer Evaluation Reports (OER). Promotions were no long "automatic."
For me the only damage my CWO OERs could do to me was if they rolled it into a tight rod and poked me in the eye with it. I do know a few CWOs of my time frame who did get more then and eye poked with their OER but they deserved all they got and then some...
For me the only damage my CWO OERs could do to me was if they rolled it into a tight rod and poked me in the eye with it. I do know a few CWOs of my time frame who did get more then and eye poked with their OER but they deserved all they got and then some...
(2)
(0)
GySgt Lawrence D. Pool
CWO4 Tim Hecht - I am not sure how to address a CWO in the Navy. In the Marine Corps it would be "Gunner", I was infantry. We didn't have infantry CWOs but we did on the various rifle ranges where I was assigned numerous times. The best officer I ever encountered during my 40 years in Federal Service (20 in Civil Service with the Army and Air Force) was a CWO-4 in the day there was no CWO-5. When I first met him, he was a CWO-3. After his promotion to CWO-4, his exact quote to me was: "Larry, when I was promoted to CWO-4, that gave me a license to piss off Lieutenant Colonels." He would definitely have agreed with you about his concern of being hurt with a fitness report. He was a Tracked Vehicle Officer but had requested to be assigned as the Officer in Charge of the Base Rifle Range in 29 Palms, CA.
(1)
(0)
CWO4 Tim Hecht
Gunny - a Gunny, TDY at our Coast Guard Base with a few 100s of his mates (1994 to provide security on our cutters rescuing Cubans fleeing Cuba) told me in the Marine Corps that a Chief Warrant Officer was called one of three titles depending on the respect they had of their Marines. First as you said and the highest respect offered was Gunner. Second was Chief, and finally, in contempt but still respectful was Mister. He then said his guys referred to me as “That Coast Guard Gunner!”
I took care of them and it showed!
I took care of them and it showed!
(2)
(0)
3
3
0
I would go to the Inspector General and CID.
As leaders we have a responsibility to our troopers, their parents who trust us to do the right thing with their children, and the citizens of this nation that look to us for their defense and security to ensure that we lead out troopers, care for the children of those parents and provide for the common defense of the nation.
Do Right, If the Stars Fall
As leaders we have a responsibility to our troopers, their parents who trust us to do the right thing with their children, and the citizens of this nation that look to us for their defense and security to ensure that we lead out troopers, care for the children of those parents and provide for the common defense of the nation.
Do Right, If the Stars Fall
(3)
(0)
3
3
0
3
3
0
It would seem that the bulk of fraud involved "finances" in a foreign war zone. I believe it was certainly widespread in Nam. It involved conversions of US Dollars to Military Payment Certificates (MPC) and then local currency on the black market. It was explained to me a long time ago I don't remember the exact mechanics except payroll officers made a fortune in US $ .
(3)
(0)
Read This Next
Continue with Facebook 
Continue with Google