Posted on Feb 22, 2014
If you looked into the heart of your enemy, what do you think you would find that is different from your own?
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<p>SFC M.D I would see the cause he is fighting is not the same as mines.</p><p>In battle he would fight for his country as I would for mines, making us soldiers fighting for opposite reasons we both don't agree upon.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p>
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I'm disturbed by the other answers here (2 as I write). I guess I shouldn't be, since the mission of the military is to kill and destroy.<div><br></div><div>In order to properly answer the question, I think we have to put ourselves in their shoes; a simple exercise of empathy. What if another country decided to invade us, and we had their equivalent of an armed force, and they had ours? What if we did not understand the reason, or sympathized with the objectives of the group that brought such an invasion upon us? What if we watched planes drop bombs on our neighborhood and killed many people we knew? What if we saw these people hunt Bob down the street because they said he was a turrst? Would we stand idly by and watch without resisting? I think not. </div><div><br></div><div>In these situations there are prime movers (or directors and agendas behind these operations), and there are prime losers. Too often the prime loses have no idea what's going on, but are simply doing what they can to survive, or get revenge against those they blame for the death of a friend or loved one. This is why the GWOT can never end... anyone who resists is, or will be labeled a turrst. That we watch this happen all around us without more of us raising questions is disturbing. But Kissinger made it clear what he thought of military men: "Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy." Comments devoid of empathy for our 'enemy' and blind to behind-the-scenes agendas make it appear that in many cases, he was right. </div>
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TSgt Christopher D.
Cpl Fernandez, you're absolutely right on all points. I didn't ask anyone to feel sorry for my friend for what happened. The whole of my discussion has been to (hopefully) cause people to ponder the how and why we go to war at all. I submit that since the adoption of the Wilsonian foreign policy, much of our war effort has had much less to do with defending the Constitution than it did promoting primarily corporate and/or banking interests. If this is true, and you're willing to see through the fog of propaganda, then I believe we should reflect on this to determine whether or not the actions we take are moral or just. That we discard this consideration under the defense of 'doing our duty' is not in line with the values we're expected to display as professional Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines, like honor and integrity. I readily accept that the war fighter in combat doesn't give a rat's ass about these kinds of things. They are too busy trying to stay alive and defend their buddies. My contention is that perhaps we should consider these things to influence policy in such a manner to keep us out of wars that have no legitimate basis in national defense. <div><br></div><div>Cpl Fernandez, I don't know if you are a father. I have 3 sons and 2 daughters. If we were invaded, I would do everything in my power to keep my children safe and outside the conflict. But if it came to us, or if fighting were necessary to protect ourselves, our home, our land etc, I would put a gun in their hands. I've taught them firearm safety and marksmanship, and would expect them to fight for their lives alongside me. If that is true in any way for you as well, then why is it so hard for us to consider that people in other countries would do the same? </div><div><br></div><div>SFC Gates, I already wished you a pleasant evening. Do you not have anything better to do?</div>
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Now thats somethin. The question is asked do we think the enemy is any different from us and all you can come up with is why is there an enemy? that we're all pawns? It's cool that you can direct the conversation to suit you, and throw out some big words, but it doesn't do much for answering the question at hand. I think someone here read you quite well: wanna-be smartest-man-in-the-room. <br>
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Are you a political official? Are you a government representative of any kind? Do you hold some position I'm not aware of that allows you to affect foreign policy? <br><br>Consider whatever you like, but you will never change anything about the reasons that we go to war. You are not a unique and special snowflake of altruistic genius. Most of us clearly couldn't give a damn about the policies of this or any administration, unless they put our lives and the lives our men at risk. If you are so adamant about keeping America out of pointless conflicts, then why not run for public office?
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TSgt Christopher D.
SGT James,
Written in 1954 by one of the coup's chief planners, the history
details how United States and British officials plotted the military coup
that returned the shah of Iran to power and toppled Iran's e...
"The question is asked do we think the enemy is any different from us and all you can come up with is why is there an enemy?"
The question asked what differences you would see if you looked in the heart of your enemy. As I admitted earlier, I misread the question not understanding it to be a touch of dark humor. Still, I think it a worthy exercise to consider why we might call someone an enemy to begin with. I also remarked about having empathy, which inherently requires one to try and put one's self in another person's shoes. Perhaps I did not do it well, but the intent was to equate them to us as human beings.
"that we're all pawns?"
I referenced a quote made by former National Security Advisor Henry Kissinger regarding his thoughts on military men. But to make a similar analogy, would you see the man in uniform is the scalpel or the surgeon? One is in control of the other, and uses it like a tool. If you look at the world as a chessboard, which piece are you?
"It's cool that you can direct the conversation to suit you, and throw out some big words, but it doesn't do much for answering the question at hand."
I made claims in my comment about the original post. That others disagreed and responded is hardly a demonstration of my control.
SGT Ryan,
No, I am not a political official. I don't like to swim in cess pools, so I won't be running for office either. As far as affecting foreign policy goes, we're led to believe we do that through voting for the guy or girl who lays out a foreign policy we agree with, but... if you believe that we should talk about my ocean front property in Kansas.
"Most of us clearly couldn't give a damn about the policies of this or any administration, unless they put our lives and the lives our men at risk."
And yet here I am asking you to consider the policies that put you and our fellow servicemen and women at risk, but you ridicule me for it...? Surely you see this statement lacks any kind of logical consistency with your other comments to me here.
SFC Gates,
"When I look at the hearts of my Enemy, all I see is pure unadulterated HATRED for who I am and what I represent."
I really only have a few questions for you regarding why they hate us:
1.) Why did the CIA work with the MI6 to overthrow democratically elected Mosaddegh from leadership in Iran and replace him with the Shah in 1953, and how was this important to our national defense?
(New York Times expose here: http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/mideast/041600iran-cia-index.html )
2.) Was this a net positive or negative for the Iranians?
3.) Did the Shah's rule and treatment of the Iranian people create the spark that caused the Islamic Revolution in 1979?
4.) Since the Islamic Revolution, have the Ayatollah's been friendly toward the US and/or our interests, or have they inculcated a culture of hatred toward us?
5.) How did installing Saddam Hussein into power in Iraq work out for us?
6.) What role did 30 brutal years under Mubarak (whom we also installed and funded) play in sparking the Egyptian Arab Spring and hatred toward the US?
7.) If some other country screwed around with our country and our people like this, wouldn't you hate those bastards?
And these are just a couple of examples of how our foreign policy has played a direct hand in creating such hatred for us in the middle east, and arguably laid the foundation for the GWOT.
So if you honor your fallen comrades at all, sir, it seems we would do quite well indeed to consider the folly of our policy makers and the real interests they work for.
Written in 1954 by one of the coup's chief planners, the history
details how United States and British officials plotted the military coup
that returned the shah of Iran to power and toppled Iran's e...
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