Posted on Sep 7, 2016
If you saw one of your Joes doing this, how would you react?
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I went to basic with this SM and saw on his Facebook that he went to Prom in his ACU's. How would you go about mentoring one of your subordinates that are in violation of AR670-1?
AR670-1 Chapter 4 Section 3 Line 2... That's what I found in the reg, please attach anything else you find
**EDIT** This is not a Dance, but it is some Formal assembly and to the best of my knowledge he is not on Duty.. Class A's would of been appropriate (as long as it's in regs, which I'm sure isn't hard since he would only have 1 ribbon)
AR670-1 Chapter 4 Section 3 Line 2... That's what I found in the reg, please attach anything else you find
**EDIT** This is not a Dance, but it is some Formal assembly and to the best of my knowledge he is not on Duty.. Class A's would of been appropriate (as long as it's in regs, which I'm sure isn't hard since he would only have 1 ribbon)
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Just bring it to his attention. Maybe he didn't know. Just do it on the sly. No need to get anyone involved. You might suggest he take the picture down. Stupid mistakes are one thing. Stupid mistakes with photographic evidence can end with you signing papers. Not worth it.
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SPC (Join to see)
All due respect TSGT, released your 2nd sentence. Someone who scores high surely knows to put "asked" rather than "ask" TSgt Frank Shirley -
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SFC Damon is spot on. This would also be a good situation to have a new NCO give the Soldier the education. Teach them both at the same time.
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CWO3 (Join to see)
Good response to a good question SFC Moysard. Meaning being, don't assume anything like that he knew better and was doing it intentionally. In reading it though I see something else - "one of your joes". If he is one of yours and didn't know then that's "shame on you" and I mean no offense toward you SPC Bernardy personally but to the theoretical person observing it. Handle in the most discreet and least humiliating manner possible. Praise publicly and counsel privately. The worst thing to do would be to make a scene and second worst is to ignore it. Once you talk privately with him then develop a course of action to fit the level of his infraction. No matter how senior you may be there is always someone senior to you. You may have the rank to tear him a new one but just think how you would feel if someone did that to you. The Golden Rule definitely applies. Best Wishes to all.
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PO2 Jeffery Reiser
Nowadays, I am surprised the even let this trooper in with all of the negative hype towards our men and women in uniform by school staff and administrators in today's society.
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Give him a high five for dating a cheerleader and then tell him he looks like an idiot wearing his ACU's for that picture.
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SFC Christopher Taggart
"Dating a cheerleader" is not ALL that. They become "regular" women after leaving high school...plus do you really want to date or marry someone who lives in the past?
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How do you know this isn't JROTC uniform day at said high school and/or if he has enlisted already but not gone to basic he might have been issued the uniform and not know the regs. No flag or unit patch and seeing if he was young and very recent to the military he would have been issued the scorpion style uniform I am leaning towards the JROTC and am going to say good for him for being proud of it.
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SPC Don Wynn
A1C Tammy Lynn - Same. We actually didn't even have ACUs, but if we had, as a freshman you are taught what is appropriate.
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SSG Brian G.
SPC (Join to see) - Incorrect. As long as it was not specifically a social function any troop can wear them unless command specifically commands otherwise. Check 670-1 section 3-3
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SSG Brian MacBain
TSgt Frank Shirley - So far in all the response that you have given and you were ask to take off the CAPS off (when CAPS on, means yelling) and still you keep caps on brings into a question in my head that I have to ask you - "WHAT IS YOUR MAJOR MALFUNCTION NUMSKULL???? So, being ask again, take off the caps and reply like everyone else.
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