Posted on Jan 27, 2015
In the Army and Marines, the First Sergeant is often referred to as "Top," or "Top Kick." Why is this so offensive for some?
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"In setting up the American Army, General Washington relied heavily on the talents of General Baron Von Steuben. During this time, Von Steuben wrote what is referred to as the "Blue Book of Regulations." This "Blue Book" covered most of the organizational, administrative, and disciplinary details necessary to operate the Continental Army.
While Von Steubon outlined the duties of such NCOs as the Sergeant Major, Quartermaster Sergeant and other key NCOs it was the Company First Sergeant, the American Equivalent of the Prussian Feldwebel, that he directed most of his attention. This noncommissioned officer, chosen by officers of the company, was the linchpin of the company and the discipline of the unit. The conduct of the troops, their exactness in obeying orders and the regularity of their manners, would "in a large measure, depend upon the First Sergeant's vigilance." The First Sergeant therefore must be "intimately acquainted with the character of every soldier in the company and should take great pains to impress upon their minds the indispensable necessity of the strictest obedience as the foundation of order and regularity." Their tasks of maintaining the duty roster in an equitable manner, taking "the daily orders in a book and showing them to their officers, making the morning report to the captain of the state of the company in the form prescribed, and at the same time, acquainting them with anything material that may have happened in the company since the preceding report," all closely resembled the duties of the 17th century company sergeant.
The First Sergeant also kept a company descriptive book under the captain's supervision. These descriptive books listed the names, ages, heights, places of birth, and prior occupations of all enlisted in the company. The Army maintained the books until about the decade of the 20th century when they were finally replaced by the "Morning Report."
Since the First Sergeant was responsible for the entire company, he was, in Von Steuben's words, "not to go on duty, unless with the whole company, but is to be in camp quarters to answer any call that may be made."
On the march or on the battlefield, they were "Never to lead a platoon or section, but always to be a file closer in the formation of the company, their duty being in the company like the adjutant's in the regiment."
In the Army and Marines, the first sergeant is often referred to as "Top," or "Top Kick." The nickname has obvious roots in that the first sergeant is the "top" enlisted person in the unit, and a "kick in the pants" is a motivation tool (not literally, at least in today's military) to get the troops into gear." (retrieve from http://usmilitary.about.com/od/theservices/a/firstsergeant_3.htm)
First sergeants are generally the senior non-commissioned officers of company (battery, troop) sized units, and are unofficially but commonly referred to as "first shirt", "top", "top sergeant", "top soldier", "top kick", due to their seniority and their position at the top of the company's enlisted ranks. They are sometimes referred to as "second hat" because the Company Commander may entrust them with important responsibilities, even over one of the company's lieutenants.
First sergeants handle the leadership and professional development of their soldiers, noncommissioned officer development, manage pay issues, supervise administrative issues, manage the promotable soldiers within the company, and are the first step in disciplinary actions such as an Article 15 (non-judicial punishment) proceeding. A first sergeant may place a soldier under arrest in quarters in certain cases, as well as manage all of the daily responsibilities of running the company/unit.
While Von Steubon outlined the duties of such NCOs as the Sergeant Major, Quartermaster Sergeant and other key NCOs it was the Company First Sergeant, the American Equivalent of the Prussian Feldwebel, that he directed most of his attention. This noncommissioned officer, chosen by officers of the company, was the linchpin of the company and the discipline of the unit. The conduct of the troops, their exactness in obeying orders and the regularity of their manners, would "in a large measure, depend upon the First Sergeant's vigilance." The First Sergeant therefore must be "intimately acquainted with the character of every soldier in the company and should take great pains to impress upon their minds the indispensable necessity of the strictest obedience as the foundation of order and regularity." Their tasks of maintaining the duty roster in an equitable manner, taking "the daily orders in a book and showing them to their officers, making the morning report to the captain of the state of the company in the form prescribed, and at the same time, acquainting them with anything material that may have happened in the company since the preceding report," all closely resembled the duties of the 17th century company sergeant.
The First Sergeant also kept a company descriptive book under the captain's supervision. These descriptive books listed the names, ages, heights, places of birth, and prior occupations of all enlisted in the company. The Army maintained the books until about the decade of the 20th century when they were finally replaced by the "Morning Report."
Since the First Sergeant was responsible for the entire company, he was, in Von Steuben's words, "not to go on duty, unless with the whole company, but is to be in camp quarters to answer any call that may be made."
On the march or on the battlefield, they were "Never to lead a platoon or section, but always to be a file closer in the formation of the company, their duty being in the company like the adjutant's in the regiment."
In the Army and Marines, the first sergeant is often referred to as "Top," or "Top Kick." The nickname has obvious roots in that the first sergeant is the "top" enlisted person in the unit, and a "kick in the pants" is a motivation tool (not literally, at least in today's military) to get the troops into gear." (retrieve from http://usmilitary.about.com/od/theservices/a/firstsergeant_3.htm)
First sergeants are generally the senior non-commissioned officers of company (battery, troop) sized units, and are unofficially but commonly referred to as "first shirt", "top", "top sergeant", "top soldier", "top kick", due to their seniority and their position at the top of the company's enlisted ranks. They are sometimes referred to as "second hat" because the Company Commander may entrust them with important responsibilities, even over one of the company's lieutenants.
First sergeants handle the leadership and professional development of their soldiers, noncommissioned officer development, manage pay issues, supervise administrative issues, manage the promotable soldiers within the company, and are the first step in disciplinary actions such as an Article 15 (non-judicial punishment) proceeding. A first sergeant may place a soldier under arrest in quarters in certain cases, as well as manage all of the daily responsibilities of running the company/unit.
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I'm retired army and have held this position of 1st Sgt, or as most referred, top. That was a term shortened from top dog, or top soldier in a line company. To refer to a SGM as top is wrong, he doesn't hold a leadership position. Referring to a CSM as top I've seen, but these were former 1st Sgt, and was more how the commander expanded the CSM role over company NCO guidance. Marines I know fought hard calling a 1st Sgt top, and tend to use the rank in speaking of. I'm not aware of CSS type units prodigal only CS and C type units. As long as is respectfully done I have no problem with it
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Times change, I reckon. As a trooper we addressed the First Sergeant as "Top" unless we were standing in front of his desk. Then he was First Sergeant. Later I had the privilege to command rifle companies in both garrison and combat conditions in the Sixties and early Seventies. The First Sergeant was addressed to as "Top" or First Sergeant interchangeably except in formation or during ceremonies i.e. "Sir, the company is formed." "Thank you, First Sergeant. Take your post." Sergeants Major were always addressed as Sergeant Major regardless of the unit designation or staff position. All other NCO's were addressed as Sergeant unless they had stepped in the poo pile.
My son-in-law is a Master Gunnery Sergeant. I've observed that he's always been addressed by his full rank by his fellow Marines.
My son-in-law is a Master Gunnery Sergeant. I've observed that he's always been addressed by his full rank by his fellow Marines.
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In my day, "Top" was a complimentary thing. Thus I have to pose the question...How are people who can earn a Rank of E8 so easily offended by this? I mean in certain contextual conversations you can usually interchange in "Yes 1st Sgt", and "Roger That, Top". Meaning at least during the course of such conversation you ARE acknowledging his Position....as THE senior enlisted person/fank of your unit (company level). Showing some level of respect, while at the same time not following the similar obligatory "Sir" after every single thing you say to an LT, etc.
Me dun get it. Especially within any Combat Arms-MOS arena. If your 1stSgt is that soft to be offended by "Top", your unit likely has far bigger problems than just this issue. "Top" is in a billet where leadership by example is essential to unit success. Im tempted to suggest that if your senior enlisted is THAT soft, it probably trickles down, too. Yet we cannot chalk this up to "The Millenial Generation" either, as most of these men/women are likely approaching 35-40 years of age---those in such billets NOW---and id they ever want to make E9, they should know by now to minimize any and all of such petty fussing.
That said, DO NOT refer to any E9s as anything but the tank they have well earned, eapecially if they are in your own chain of command, lest you want to put yourself on their "shit list".
Me dun get it. Especially within any Combat Arms-MOS arena. If your 1stSgt is that soft to be offended by "Top", your unit likely has far bigger problems than just this issue. "Top" is in a billet where leadership by example is essential to unit success. Im tempted to suggest that if your senior enlisted is THAT soft, it probably trickles down, too. Yet we cannot chalk this up to "The Millenial Generation" either, as most of these men/women are likely approaching 35-40 years of age---those in such billets NOW---and id they ever want to make E9, they should know by now to minimize any and all of such petty fussing.
That said, DO NOT refer to any E9s as anything but the tank they have well earned, eapecially if they are in your own chain of command, lest you want to put yourself on their "shit list".
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Cpl Christopher Bishop
I apologize for the typos, when I thought to edit...Im not seeing the "Edit" tool/button in this app. Perhaps this is part of the reason I didn't make "Top" eh?
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1SG's do not do Art. 15. That is a commander's tool, and must be conducted by a commander. A 1SG could counsel at the direction of the commander, but this has been a reason for NJP's getting tossed.
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I was never a First Sergeant or Master Sergeant because I was a former Gunnery Sergeant prior to my appointment to Warrant Officer in the Marine Corps. But my peers who were either of these ranks were highly respected and professionals in my opinion.
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I was a First Sergeant for 7 years. I was informed by the people I work with that Top, Shirt was a term used because of their respect for me. I was told the ones that weren't respected were referred by their tank and last name. I always like being called top or shirt and still am addressed this way by the people who know me.
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I always addressed my First Sargent with the respect he had earned. Yes First Sargent!
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I never had a 1SG in any unit I was in that I "respected" enough to call Top. My now-ex-husband's 1SG in his BCT training unit was ALWAYS "top" to me, in uniform or out. That's how much respect as a person AND as a 1SG I had for him.
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During my time in the Corps, 1976-1992, I never called a 1stSgt Top, ever. Our tradition or protocol was to refer to them as 1stSgt or a Sergeant Major as Sergeant Major. In fact everyone above the rank of Sergeant, E5, is addressed by their full rank. So a Staff Sergeant, E6, is called Staff Sergeant, a Gunnery Sergeant is called Gunnery Sergeant or "Gunny", a Master Sergeant is called Master Sergeant or "Top", a 1stSgt is 1stSgt, a Master Gunnery Sergeant is called Master Gunnery Sergeant, Master Guns or "Top" and a SgtMaj is a SgtMaj. I know the Army calls most everyone above the rank of Sgt, Staff Sergeant and Sergeant First Class, are called Sgt. Master Sergeants and First Sergeants are called "Top". I don't know of anyone who would call a SGM or CSM "Top".
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I had "Tops" and I've had 1SG's. Generally a Top is a more connected to the troops leader. 1SG's ir rather the ones who get offended by top have always been a little uptight. Had one who always said smoking was a sign of poor leadership but his first day in country he was smoking at the shave sink. I just smiled and said good morning Top bwahahaha
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