Posted on Oct 24, 2013
Incapacitation by invisible injury, line of duty. Advocacy.
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Nature has just as many ways to injure a man as enemy action. The last century has shown us that the more incursions into remote areas, the more previously unknown illnesses, injuries, and anatomical dysfunctions we encounter. The typical result is the use of the "Discharge under other than honorable conditions" after a short psychiatric review to deny benefits. This has been the procedure of choice since the automatic review for Dishonorable discharges became mandatory. Malaria, heat injuries, Post traumatic stress disorder, Jungle rot, Unidentified chemical agent exposures, and more. Should a mandatory review of dishonorable discharges be expanded to include any discharge other than honorable in character? Could many of these abuses be neutralized by a patient advocacy program?
Posted 12 y ago
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Too many are put in harm's way then cast aside when they are actually harmed. Any program that is shown to be misused for the purposes of denying benefits to those who are forever damaged by their service needs more than an external review. It needs major revision.
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SGT Leigh Barton
It needs more than that. Just as the services have a specified code of conduct, General Orders, and the UCMJ to govern our conduct, it should be obvious that a similar standard needs to be in place for the government. Any service member should expect to come out in the same condition they went in or receive assistance in full recovery, both physical and mental, including living expenses and retraining. What you're doing is paraphrasing something I've said repeatedly for many years now, The phrase "The Army takes care of it's own" (you may substitute any service branch in that statement), leaves out one important detail. You get hurt, you aren't "their own" any more. You're the veterans administration's problem. And they don't give a rat's @$$ about your recovery.
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The determining factor is medical occurrences within uniform whether training or combat. Yes, medical decisions need to be reviewed for benefit eligibility. It happens with standards 12-18 month reevaluations. Too many people suffering without proper healthcare in military and Veteran community. This is not new to Veterans of the World War II, Korean Conflict, Vietnam War and Gulf War. The system needs overall!
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SGT Leigh Barton
The system needs more than an overhaul, it needs to actually be thought out from the ground up before it's implemented. Not just palliative responses to public outrage.
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I can't speak for anyone in the DH or OTH category. That being said I can speak first hand for unseen illness. This is the reason why I am going to Seattle this week tomorrow. I had received a freak tumor, I emphasis freak. That is believed to be attributed to the burn pit in Balad Iraq. This tumor was called myxoma, I received it in my jaw bone. What is sad is the dental when active said on the x-ray it is an abscess don't worry about it. I started to see a lump on my gum as a civilian (November 2011). I find out through the VA it is a freak tumor. To make this long story short I had my fibia removed out of my right leg to transplant into where 9 teeth of jaw bone used to be. Lost more than 3 months of work, just on leave of absence. As well as still more procedures. So this does hit a personal note for me of hidden things to come.
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SGT Leigh Barton
Good luck on your surgery. Pay more than passing attention to building up the healing factors in your body prior to surgery, nutritional supplements, eggs, milk solids, heavy on the proteins (red meat), and ask your physician for advice on the matter.
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I Know The feeling Got activated for first gulf war, Went and got shots dental and then sent from ft. Knox Ky to ft. Jackson Sc, Back went out got put on Deadman profile next thing I know I'm being sent Home. A Few Years Later I'm diagnosed with fibromyalgia (Gulf War syndrome)
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SGT Leigh Barton
I had to dial it up on the computer since I've been out of the medical profession for thirty years, and I have some observations that might be helpful. I had to fight my way back through this unassisted, so I lacked the resources for a conclusive evaluation of my own condition, and that's not easy when you spend sixteen hours a day unconscious and the other eight barely lucid, for six years after I got out my brains were so badly scrambled I couldn't find the table to put food on. I encountered the Mayo Clinic website for Fibromyalgia ( http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/fibromyalgia/basics/definition/con-20019243 )<div><br></div><div>and noticed two important things immediately. First, most of the symptoms constitute the initial symptoms of shock. Whether produced by an undiagnosed heat injury or hypersensitivity to a new microbiological pool (the reason for all the shots before going overseas) it remains shock. The body's endocrine system is trying to stabilize itself in the face of something that is overpowering it. And not doing too well. It's also possible that the instability is producing an early onset of arthritis, but that would require a clinical evaluation.Second on the list is a dietary recommendation, and nutritional support is what pulled me back far enough to get a handle on my condition. This same instability seems to be at the heart of Post Traumatic stress Disorder, Residual Malaria, and you may have just added Fibromyalgia to the list. Simply stated, nutritional support is the key. The nutrients in the body ARE what the body uses to regulate and stabilize itself. This causes the body to utilize nutrients ACROSS THE BOARD at an accelerated rate. Nutrients and trace elements alike, causing a chronic general nutritional deficiency. In short, you may require a higher level of nutrients in the body to maintain a normal level of stability. A basic vitamin mineral complex could be helpful, I keep a bottle on hand and use half of one at a time as needed due to the heavy coating on the tablets. Probiotics may also be helpful, any health store or herbal store will have them. And welcome home.</div><div class="pta-link-card"><div class="pta-link-card-picture"><img src="http://b.scorecardresearch.com/p?c1=2&c2=6035818&cv=2.0&cj=1"></div><div class="pta-link-card-content"><div class="pta-link-card-title"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/fibromyalgia/basics/definition/con-20019243">Fibromyalgia Definition - Diseases and Conditions - Mayo Clinic</a></div><div class="pta-link-card-description">Fibromyalgia — Comprehensive overview covers symptoms, treatment of this chronic condition characterized by widespread pain.</div></div><div style="clear:both"></div><div class="pta-box-hide"><i class="icon-remove"></i></div></div>
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Try being the National Guard, called up for a federal mission on state orders. Now you are in a world of hurt. Cant get federal benefits because you are on state orders, and dont get state benefits because you were on a federal mission.
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SSG Dave Rogers
The WTC is in NY, but 9-11 was a federal operation, considered an act of terrorism and the area was declared a combat zone during the first 72 hours, not a state mission as the national guard were there as part of Operation Noble Eagle/Enduring Freedom, the governor was suppose to put us on federal orders and did not. Like I said it is complicated, it is not your typical National Guard situation, and when Congress and the State Legislation were passing laws covering the First Responders care during that time they kind of forgot about the National Guard who were actually in the zone performing along side with federal agencies, the police and firefighters. Part of the problem is that the National Guard did not keep records of who was in what zone, but also as I was injured in the zone and it was declared a combat zone, I am not able to bring suit against the government. Like I said not your typical situation. Believe me I have talked to the Mayor, Governor, State and Federal Senators, my Congressman, and 5 different lawyers. This is a mess that they did not plan on, and dont know how to fix so easily.
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SGT Leigh Barton
The point that I was trying to make is that the Federal Government REQUIRES STATE PERMISSION in order to acquire your services. Effectively, you are retained by the federal government from the state as a mercenary. And just for the record most mercenaries do strictly rescue work. Simply because they've seen enough nastiness to be able to cope with it better than most. Have you tried the World Health Organization for assistance? It's a UN organization with a little more in the way of political resources to unravel the mess.
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SSG Dave Rogers
You need to reread your regulations, the Federal Government normally requires state permission to acquire your services, unless an act of National Terrorism or if a disaster crosses state lines as Active Military are not permitted to perform such duties by regulation of the federal government may require the states to activate the National Guard, but it is up to the state under which tile to activate you under.
And just for the record I am not a mercenary, I was a National Guard Soldier, formally an active duty soldier. Also the World Health Organization and the UN have no standing in Federal and State missions for the US government. I have written 256 letters on this matter, and received 320 responses back, most of them quoting Army, National Guard, State and Federal Regulations. Both my Congressman and State Senator have admitted that there is a loop in the system for this, and I happen to fall into it. In order for them to fix it, they would have to change the law, and I would have to hope that the change is retro active.
You should also know that while the National Guard is in every state, that each state has slightly different regulations that cover National Guard Soldiers, which are set by your state government. Crazy I know, but that is the way it is. For example, in Idaho, you can receive a federal medal for acts you perform under state orders, but in NY you can not. NY State has medals designed for such acts. So just because California does it a certain way, does not mean another state will. I learned that from the National Guard HQ IG Office after writing them a letter in 2006.
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SGT Leigh Barton
I stand corrected. Although my comments were intended from a real world perspective, not merely a legal one. The objective for me was to point out possible assets that may be of assistance since 9 11 was an act of international terrorism, producing a significant level of U.N. involvement. The mercenaries I have met in many cases have a far more desirable content of character than some service members that I had to work with. Since my first three years were with a National Guard unit in communications and the last seven were on active service in medicine, two years with the 82d as a patient care specialist (airborne) another with the 18th Airborne Corps hospital at Bragg as a clinic NCOIC, and another as a Senior Aid man for an unofficial Ranger Company. The perspective may be appropriate to you , since, like me, the system has reneged on it's responsibilities to you. If I hadn't pointed the W.H.O. out as a possible resource, I wouldn't have been doing my best for you. So please don't take offense.
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