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So I was injured in basic training and they were medically chaptering me out but battalion kicked my packet back when I got to the last step and made me go on con-leave. I’m pretty much over being in as I was treated like absolut dog shit once I got injured. Anyway I’m nearing the end of it and I’m still in pain and can’t run, jump, or even walk long distances and now I’m having panic attacks about going back and then pulling some bullshit and try to keep me in or something like that. I can’t do this and I can’t leave my wife for that long again. The military has been the biggest mistake I’ve ever made. I need some advice guys because the panic attacks and depression are getting pretty bad. What should I do?
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15 days ago you asked a question in regards to improving your push-up event for the APFT in an attempt to better yourself for your return to training. Two weeks later and now the military is the biggest mistake you ever made? Believe me, you will spend much longer periods of time away from your family. You’re NG, so you probably won’t get treated harshly at all. Lastly, if you’re getting panic attacks over simply returning to basic then I honestly wouldn’t want you in a squad in any Sapper Company. To put it rather bluntly, just med board and get out.
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Ehh, so I kind of wrote this while drunk and I’m a little embarrassed but owning it anyway. It’s been hard being away from the wife but I actually do love the army with everything I have. It fills me with pride to put the uniform on. What really demotivated the hell out of me was when I got hurt. Everything was going great and then BAM! Somehow I get stress fractures in both my knees and I have to have help going down steps and have to use crutches like some kind of sissy. Not to mention that they made me sit for hours on in doing nothing. Maybe pulling weeds from the cracks In the concrete. Which is whatever. Army stuff. Got it. But the real kicker was that I gave 110% and then now that I’m hurt half of the other recruits and the DS start calling me useless and a waste of space ect. Why kick a man while he’s down? I literally sacrificed body to give 110% and got injured. I’m going back and I’m kicking the shit out of this training. Hopefully they didn’t lie when they said I’d start back in blue phase.
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Professionally speaking, while it is another form of social media I wouldn’t advise making statements on RP while inhebriated. In response to your last statement however, I’m glad you still plan to complete your training. Take this as a lesson in resilience; you will need a lot of it throughout the rest of your time serving. Don’t feel overly discouraged about being injured though, you did the smart thing (something I wish I had done numerous times) and got your injury checked out and let it heal. If you’re not 100% yet, utilize whatever means you have to finish through without hurting yourself any further. I hate to be, “that NCO” that tells you I completed AASLT with a torn meniscus, but here I am. Know your limits but take care of your body, know the difference between sore and injured, be resilient, and drive on. Blue Phase or Day Zero - if you really want it, you’ll accomplish it.
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If you didn't notice, everyone gets treated like dog shit in basic. There is purpose behind it.
1) To make you appreciate not being treated like dog shit once you are beyond basic.
2) To test your mental fortitude.
If you are not medically fit, you are not worth keeping in because the Army won't have any use for you. The Army will keep you in long enough to med board.
You claim the military is the biggest mistake you have ever made. It is true the military is not for everyone. You were away from your wife for 3 months of basic. If you thought that was bad, what were you imagining if you got deployed? A typical deployment lasts 9 months or longer. Regardless of whether you stay in or get out of the military, use this as a life lesson. Next time you make a big life-altering decision you might want to put some research into what you are getting into first.
1) To make you appreciate not being treated like dog shit once you are beyond basic.
2) To test your mental fortitude.
If you are not medically fit, you are not worth keeping in because the Army won't have any use for you. The Army will keep you in long enough to med board.
You claim the military is the biggest mistake you have ever made. It is true the military is not for everyone. You were away from your wife for 3 months of basic. If you thought that was bad, what were you imagining if you got deployed? A typical deployment lasts 9 months or longer. Regardless of whether you stay in or get out of the military, use this as a life lesson. Next time you make a big life-altering decision you might want to put some research into what you are getting into first.
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Ehh, so I kind of wrote this while drunk and I’m a little embarrassed but owning it anyway. It’s been hard being away from the wife but I actually do love the army with everything I have. It fills me with pride to put the uniform on. What really demotivated the hell out of me was when I got hurt. Everything was going great and then BAM! Somehow I get stress fractures in both my knees and I have to have help going down steps and have to use crutches like some kind of sissy. Not to mention that they made me sit for hours on in doing nothing. Maybe pulling weeds from the cracks In the concrete. Which is whatever. Army stuff. Got it. But the real kicker was that I gave 110% and then now that I’m hurt half of the other recruits and the DS start calling me useless and a waste of space ect. Why kick a man while he’s down? I literally sacrificed body to give 110% and got injured. I’m going back and I’m kicking the shit out of this training. Hopefully they didn’t lie when they said I’d start back in blue phase.
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PVT (Join to see) - ok. Please put into context. First, I understand that there is nothing lower in the Army than an injured Basic Trainee. Believe me, I know. Shit happens. You got hurt at your job, and you were probably sent to a hold over company (FTC) with one mission. Heal. Yes, they yell at you. Yes, they probably have you on ridiculous details. But medical appointments take priority.
You’re getting paid to heal. At home. And if you go back to work, and they say your injury is just too much, you’ll be separated with an honorable discharge and a nice little perk package on your way way out.
But only a handful of weeks ago, you were asking advice about how to improve your APFT. Assuming your con leave was 30 days, this deep dark depression and panic attacks have sunken in to the point where it’s now the worst decision you’ve ever made? If that’s even true, it would appear that soldiering isn’t for you. If it isn’t true, and you’re trying to game the system somehow, soldiering still isn’t for you.
You were away from your wife for a few weeks, months? I know the Army can be a shock but Private, that isn’t a long time. The best advice is as follows. Bear down, return to your unit when con leave is over. Follow all instructions as issued by medical staff. If they say return to training, great. If not, great.
Wait until you’ve been in for a few years and you’re still treated like dog shit.
You’re getting paid to heal. At home. And if you go back to work, and they say your injury is just too much, you’ll be separated with an honorable discharge and a nice little perk package on your way way out.
But only a handful of weeks ago, you were asking advice about how to improve your APFT. Assuming your con leave was 30 days, this deep dark depression and panic attacks have sunken in to the point where it’s now the worst decision you’ve ever made? If that’s even true, it would appear that soldiering isn’t for you. If it isn’t true, and you’re trying to game the system somehow, soldiering still isn’t for you.
You were away from your wife for a few weeks, months? I know the Army can be a shock but Private, that isn’t a long time. The best advice is as follows. Bear down, return to your unit when con leave is over. Follow all instructions as issued by medical staff. If they say return to training, great. If not, great.
Wait until you’ve been in for a few years and you’re still treated like dog shit.
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Ehh, so I kind of wrote this while drunk and I’m a little embarrassed but owning it anyway. It’s been hard being away from the wife but I actually do love the army with everything I have. It fills me with pride to put the uniform on. What really demotivated the hell out of me was when I got hurt. Everything was going great and then BAM! Somehow I get stress fractures in both my knees and I have to have help going down steps and have to use crutches like some kind of sissy. Not to mention that they made me sit for hours on in doing nothing. Maybe pulling weeds from the cracks In the concrete. Which is whatever. Army stuff. Got it. But the real kicker was that I gave 110% and then now that I’m hurt half of the other recruits and the DS start calling me useless and a waste of space ect. Why kick a man while he’s down? I literally sacrificed body to give 110% and got injured. I’m going back and I’m kicking the shit out of this training. Hopefully they didn’t lie when they said I’d start back in blue phase.
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Justin, go back and ask to see your commander. Tell him that you would like a chapter for failure to adapt. Tell him that you will not take no for an answer. I bet you can be out pretty quick after that and back to mama. However, as you go clear, don't ask for any disability. For not fulfilling your obligation, do not expect anything in return. Have a nice life full of regret.
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Ehh, I kind of did this while I was drunk and stressed out. I apologize fully. I love the army and I am full of pride when I put the uniform on. The thing that demotivated the hell out of me was everything was going absolutely great and then BAM! I get injured. And I have to sit from 0400 to lights out doing nothing. Worst part was when I did get injured half my platoon and my DS started calling me useless and everything else under the sun. I mean, why call me names? I actually want to be there. Anyway. I apologize, I’m not like that. I’m going back to finish it.
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Hey i went through some pretty similar shit in basic and i got recycled 3 times. In total i spent 10 months in fort benning for infantry osut. Sometimes you just gotta suck it up and dont quit. dont get med boarded because then you'll regret it your entire life. If you need to reenlist then do it, but just remember, all of it is a game. Just play the game. Just think about the pride you'll have walking across that parade field.
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Damn dude, you kind of make me look like a bitch. My only issue is that I have a wife and being gone that long isn’t a option.
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PVT (Join to see) - Imagine getting deployed dude. NG deploys too. I was in the guard and deployed to Afghanistan. I left my wife for over a year.
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Basic training today isn’t how it used to be. If you think it is tough now, imagine how it was years ago. The simple truth is that it isn’t for everybody, and it’s more mental, than physical. Think about what drove you to enlist in the first place, and use that to motivate you to keep pushing.
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Ehh, so I kind of wrote this while drunk and I’m a little embarrassed but owning it anyway. It’s been hard being away from the wife but I actually do love the army with everything I have. It fills me with pride to put the uniform on. What really demotivated the hell out of me was when I got hurt. Everything was going great and then BAM! Somehow I get stress fractures in both my knees and I have to have help going down steps and have to use crutches like some kind of sissy. Not to mention that they made me sit for hours on in doing nothing. Maybe pulling weeds from the cracks In the concrete. Which is whatever. Army stuff. Got it. But the real kicker was that I gave 110% and then now that I’m hurt half of the other recruits and the DS start calling me useless and a waste of space ect. Why kick a man while he’s down? I literally sacrificed body to give 110% and got injured. I’m going back and I’m kicking the shit out of this training. Hopefully they didn’t lie when they said I’d start back in blue phase.
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Most of your available options now are " it depends".
You may be eligible for VA disabled $ benefits with a good attorney after discharge. The VA Rating depends on severity if service connected injury.
VERY IMPORTANT! MAKE COPIES OF ALL MEDICAL RECORDS! Register your DD 214 at your hometown local County Courthouse and get free copy when you need it.
You may be eligible to return into Army BCT "later" with a medical waiver if you still wished to return.
None of above is solid 100% YES!
You may be eligible for VA disabled $ benefits with a good attorney after discharge. The VA Rating depends on severity if service connected injury.
VERY IMPORTANT! MAKE COPIES OF ALL MEDICAL RECORDS! Register your DD 214 at your hometown local County Courthouse and get free copy when you need it.
You may be eligible to return into Army BCT "later" with a medical waiver if you still wished to return.
None of above is solid 100% YES!
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Panic attacks that the Army might try to keep you in for the 8 years you signed up for?
Dude.
I just can't sometimes.
Here's the deal. You got injured, got a profile, and can't perform the APFT events, a TRADOC requirement for passing BCT. They went so far as to send you home on ConLeave to recover and give it another go. I don't know what your injuries are that it would affect you this long, but the Army seemed to think that you'd recover in 30 days or you would have been chaptered right then and there. If you go back to Basic and still can't perform, they WILL chapter you out.
I know this might seem like a lot to you right now, but trust me on this: living the life gets a lot harder than BCT, where they give you three square meals a day, all of your clothes, a place to sleep, and direction on what to do every day. Once you graduate, you'll be expected to do your job, in the heat, cold, wind, rain, or dust with an enemy nearby that wants you dead. Your wife will have no idea when you might come home, if at all, and neither will you.
If it is an anxiety and depression-inducing experience now, be thankful that you discovered that the Army wasn't for you while in training instead of a couple years from now.
I wish you luck, and a speedy recovery. Get your medical and mental health issues documented and addressed so that they do not persist any longer than they should take to resolve.
Dude.
I just can't sometimes.
Here's the deal. You got injured, got a profile, and can't perform the APFT events, a TRADOC requirement for passing BCT. They went so far as to send you home on ConLeave to recover and give it another go. I don't know what your injuries are that it would affect you this long, but the Army seemed to think that you'd recover in 30 days or you would have been chaptered right then and there. If you go back to Basic and still can't perform, they WILL chapter you out.
I know this might seem like a lot to you right now, but trust me on this: living the life gets a lot harder than BCT, where they give you three square meals a day, all of your clothes, a place to sleep, and direction on what to do every day. Once you graduate, you'll be expected to do your job, in the heat, cold, wind, rain, or dust with an enemy nearby that wants you dead. Your wife will have no idea when you might come home, if at all, and neither will you.
If it is an anxiety and depression-inducing experience now, be thankful that you discovered that the Army wasn't for you while in training instead of a couple years from now.
I wish you luck, and a speedy recovery. Get your medical and mental health issues documented and addressed so that they do not persist any longer than they should take to resolve.
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Ehh, I kind of wrote this when I was drunk and feeling stressed out. I actually love the army. It’s been my dream since I was a kid. I just hated how everything was going great with training and then BAM! I have multiple stress fractures in both my knees. I had to have my friends help me down the damn steps. Then I sat around all day doing absolutely nothing from 0400 to lights out as other recruits and the DS called me every name under the sun. I normally have very thick skin, but I didn’t deserve all that. I actually want to be there and train.
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You can't do much tell you get back. Check in with the Hospital, tell them your story and tell them you need to ego home to the wife.
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I actually wrote this while I was a little tipsy. I actually love the army and the lifestyle. It’s going to open so many doors for me and my wife. It’s just everything was going great with training and the BAM I have multiple stress fractures in both my knees and I can’t do anything anymore. I literally sat down for hours a day unless the had me pulling weeds out of cracks in the concrete. Which is whatever, but I had most recruits and the DS calling me useless and everything else. I normally have thick skin. But why kick a man while he’s down? I actually want to be there and train. It fills me with pride to wear the uniform.
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So basically you have come to the conclusion that the army is hard? No shit! You're worried about being away from your wife? Most of us have a divorce or two under our belts. If I remember correctly, you're national guard. You only have to finish basic and AIT then you can go home. Listen, you've found out that the army isn't for you. Just suck it up for the remainder of your contract and leave once it's done. You might be medboarded when you get back anyways. I will advise against failing to return to basic training. If you do that a warrant for your arrest will be issued and the next time you get pulled over for speeding, you will be arrested, sent to your unit and then be dishonorably discharged. You will have a black mark on your record, which will make employment, especially government employment, difficult. Go back and see this through to the end.
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Ehh, so I kind of wrote this while drunk and I’m a little embarrassed but owning it anyway. It’s been hard being away from the wife but I actually do love the army with everything I have. It fills me with pride to put the uniform on. What really demotivated the hell out of me was when I got hurt. Everything was going great and then BAM! Somehow I get stress fractures in both my knees and I have to have help going down steps and have to use crutches like some kind of sissy. Not to mention that they made me sit for hours on in doing nothing. Maybe pulling weeds from the cracks In the concrete. Which is whatever. Army stuff. Got it. But the real kicker was that I gave 110% and then now that I’m hurt half of the other recruits and the DS start calling me useless and a waste of space ect. Why kick a man while he’s down? I literally sacrificed body to give 110% and got injured. I’m going back and I’m kicking the shit out of this training. Hopefully they didn’t lie when they said I’d start back in blue phase.
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