Posted on Jan 13, 2016
Is a APFT considered a loss of PMOS qualification, pertaining to BAR?
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Just as it's stated above. 601-280 8-4 a. references that soldiers are identified by failure to perform the basic taks required of their PMOS, or loss of qualification for their PMOS.
So if you are able to take a PT test, and you dodge it... You are failing to perform a basic task for your PMOS since its a requirement for all...
Personally I could see that working.
DISCLAMER: I am a BN retention nco, not a 79S
So if you are able to take a PT test, and you dodge it... You are failing to perform a basic task for your PMOS since its a requirement for all...
Personally I could see that working.
DISCLAMER: I am a BN retention nco, not a 79S
79S: Career Counselor
Retention NCO
Edited 9 y ago
Posted 9 y ago
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To clarify for you, a loss of qualification requires a reclass. For instance losing a clearance is one of the most common ones. The person can stay I'm the Army but not the MOS
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SSG Randall P.
Oh OK. Yeah that really explains it better. So would that still be grounds for a commanders bar. I'm reading really into the bar section because, I know its coming sooner or later.
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No, not really. If someone is not qualified in their MOS they are coded as 9P and ineligible to reenlist.
The Commander can bar a Soldier for just about any reason possible as long as it passes the review of the approving official, and it can be substantiated to the appeal authority.
The Commander can bar a Soldier for just about any reason possible as long as it passes the review of the approving official, and it can be substantiated to the appeal authority.
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Whooo... This was a great question when I hadn't really understood bars entirely. Still learning but have a way better understanding since then. Thanks again for the input NCO's!
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No, but if the Soldier has failed his APFT he should be flagged and will have a 9E Imrepr. If it has been greater than 9 months since his last APFT bit he has not failed one, Your supervising 79S could place a 9X IMREPR on the Soldier. Which would make him ineligible for reenlistment. Loss of PMOS qualification means the Soldier has lost one of the qualifications listed in DA PAM 611-21 for his MOS. In that event the Soldier would have a 9P code.
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SSG Randall P.
Yes, 9P if da Pam 611-21 listed x as a loss. However. Commanders are authorized according to regulation to do a bar if they want?
I don't have a soldier in this situation this is literally a situation.
I don't have a soldier in this situation this is literally a situation.
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SSG (Join to see)
Long story shortyou can bar the guy if need be, but it is not considered loss of PMOS.
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