Posted on Feb 11, 2019
Is a relationship between an ROTC cadet and an E-4 in different units allowed? What is the rule with fraternization for ROTC cadets?
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Using LtCol Mackay's references I say this:
2–27. Officer and enlisted (promotion into noncompliance)
a. Situation. SSG Rogers and SGT Thomas have been dating for some time. SGT Thomas is selected for OCS. May SSG Rogers and SGT Thomas continue their dating relationship?
b. Explanation. Generally, dating relationships between officers and enlisted are prohibited by AR 600–20. Prior to the date of commissioning, SSG Rogers and SGT Thomas must terminate their dating relationship. Alternatively, if SSG Rogers and SGT Thomas marry before commissioning, their relationship may continue after commissioning. The policy prohibiting social relationships between officer and enlisted personnel will not affect any married couple where one or both of the parties wishes to subsequently advance their military career. So, for example, AR 600–20 would also allow a civilian spouse of an enlisted Soldier to become an officer, or a civilian spouse of an officer to enlist.
I disagree with those who have opined that it shouldn't be an issue if you are in different units, but, if memory serves me, your cadet will only be commissioned if he successfully completes his degree program. But that's another problem!
2–27. Officer and enlisted (promotion into noncompliance)
a. Situation. SSG Rogers and SGT Thomas have been dating for some time. SGT Thomas is selected for OCS. May SSG Rogers and SGT Thomas continue their dating relationship?
b. Explanation. Generally, dating relationships between officers and enlisted are prohibited by AR 600–20. Prior to the date of commissioning, SSG Rogers and SGT Thomas must terminate their dating relationship. Alternatively, if SSG Rogers and SGT Thomas marry before commissioning, their relationship may continue after commissioning. The policy prohibiting social relationships between officer and enlisted personnel will not affect any married couple where one or both of the parties wishes to subsequently advance their military career. So, for example, AR 600–20 would also allow a civilian spouse of an enlisted Soldier to become an officer, or a civilian spouse of an officer to enlist.
I disagree with those who have opined that it shouldn't be an issue if you are in different units, but, if memory serves me, your cadet will only be commissioned if he successfully completes his degree program. But that's another problem!
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AR 600-20 and DA PAM 600-35 are your resources. Think you need to figure this out before the Cadet is Commissioned.
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An ROTC cadet is a weird standing when it comes to where you fit in. Check with your chain of command. Pretty sure it wouldn’t be an issue if you’re in different units. The fraternization only really comes into play when you’re in the same chain of command
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Fraternization policies have changed. It’s not just in your chain of command anymore, it’s any time-in any unit-in any composition JAG dependant. Though many bad examples exist, you want to be the one to set the good example.
So, as a recent PMS-I would advise that a contracted Cadet think deeply about any relationships they enter into. When you commission, dating a SPc or SGT will be an issue. As a Cadet no one takes a second look though. By REG, you are an officer candidate and should refrain from a relationship with an enlisted Soldier, but that is something you must take up with your chain of Command. That would be your SMI and PMS
So, as a recent PMS-I would advise that a contracted Cadet think deeply about any relationships they enter into. When you commission, dating a SPc or SGT will be an issue. As a Cadet no one takes a second look though. By REG, you are an officer candidate and should refrain from a relationship with an enlisted Soldier, but that is something you must take up with your chain of Command. That would be your SMI and PMS
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