Posted on May 13, 2016
SSG Satellite Communication Systems Operator/Maintainer
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I did the Active Duty G2G option. Can message me if you/Soldier have questions after researching the options! Happy to coach, teach, and mentor future leaders anytime.
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SSG Satellite Communication Systems Operator/Maintainer
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Thank you Ma'am.
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Edited 8 y ago
With respect, sincerely, and I don't blame you if you don't like this answer, but...

I would give very limited assistance and even less encouragement to an enlisted person who wants to be an officer. If a soldier has the initiative, resourcefulness, and desire to become an officer, they'll figure it out and get it done without support or approval from others. In my mind, an officer applicant needs to have an unusual ability to solve their own problems. If they don't get through the application process without assistance, they shouldn't be an officer in the first place.

I would simply say, good luck and I wish you well.

Sorry for hurt any feelings. I may be wrong, but that's my personal view.
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COL Jon Thompson
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I made it through 30 years of commissioned service as an officer by asking a lot of people along the way for help. I would never discourage someone from doing the same. As a current Recruiting Operations Officer for an ROTC program, I recently worked with a regular Army SSG who wanted to do this option. The process is not all that straight forward. I looked in the Cadet Command regulations and it was not clear in those. I finally got the answer and then the Soldier did all the leg work to get this done. He is coming into our program this fall. If he had not asked, none of this would have happened. Since this is a SSG who is asking the question, I bet this Soldier is a junior enlisted who has been in the Army for a moment. I would not expect someone like that to know where to look or where to get the answers. He is not asking for someone to do the packet for him, he is asking for guidance on how to get it done. I think it is poor leadership for someone to provide little encouragement to a Soldier who wants to better themselves.
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SSG Satellite Communication Systems Operator/Maintainer
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Sir, I think the limit on the number of words used in a post limited my ability to lay out the situation fully. My Soldier, promotable Specialist, has his application in the pipeline and hasn't heard any response in a reasonable time frame. He's in that limbo where the deadline is fast approaching and he can't get a response or confirmation. The non-scholarship process isn't clearly laid out as other ROTC processes are. So, I reached out to the extensive knowledge base here on Rally Point.
No hurt feelings, no report or blankie necessary! Thank you Sir.
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Capt Michael Greene
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Good luck to him and bless you for taking care of your people.
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Respectfully disagree. Glove on the other hand: New butterbar hits his very first duty station...asks for help on how something works. His Platoon Daddy says, “Sir, just look it up there’s got to be a regulation that covers it somewhere. A good LT would know where to find the answer”. This would be an unexceptable response. Sharing information is not coddling.
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SSG Satellite Communication Systems Operator/Maintainer
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SSG(P) (Join to see) - Thank you SSG Unger, we've got all that. Thank you for your response.
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Is anyone familiar with the ROTC Green to Gold, non-scholarship process?
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Can you do this option to get a Masters degree?
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Very. You'll want to reach out to the program you're interested in and speak with their ROO for assistance. The process isn't too challenging so long as you have support from your CoC and the program.
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If your Soldier wants to go for Green to Gold, he or she needs to get in contact with the university they plan on attending along with the PMS of that ROTC program. Generally, the Soldier needs to be accepted to the institution and may require a memorandum of approval from the PMS.

I worked through a Green to Gold application when I was on Gold Bar Recruiting. The process will go a lot easier if he or she is actually accepted at the university.
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SSG Satellite Communication Systems Operator/Maintainer
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Thank you Sir, that's about where we are. V/r, SSG Armstrong
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COL Jon Thompson
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I am currently working with a SSG who is going through this. Since they is doing the non-scholarship option, he does not have a board deadline. They will have to get accepted in the college and then into the ROTC program. They will then need to request a chapter discharge for the purposes of G2G. This has to work through the chain of command and I believe it is the Brigade commander who approves. They will have to meet all of the eligibility requirements to include medical qualification. That may be challenging so when they go to the MTF for their DODMERB physical, they need to make the MTF knows this is a DODMERB since that uses different forms. Message me directly if you need anything else.
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Go to one of the colleges which has a ROTC program and have he/she talk to the Professor of Military Science. Usually it's a Active Duty/Active Guard senior CPT or a MAJ
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SPC Andrew Griffin
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Let me see if I can find something for you!
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SSG Satellite Communication Systems Operator/Maintainer
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Thank you SPC Griffin, please send anything you may come up with.
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Not sure if everything is ok/just takes time. Seems the program doesn't have clear policies to refer to. Has anyone gone through a program like this? Thanks!
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The Professor of Military Science (PMS) of any college that offers ROTC program will be able to put the package together with her. That's how I got in. I am pretty sure something has change but the PMS will be able to guide your Soldier to the right direction.
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