Posted on Oct 19, 2017
Is anyone on Scroll L03-17? Do you have any info as to what is going on with it & why did it go back to ASA(M&RA) from being at the SECDEF?
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Washington Report (November 21, 2017) More than 500 National Guard officers have responded to a NGAUS survey regarding wait times for federally recognized promotions, and several say they have waited more than a year. In fact, a few have waited more than 1,000 days to receive the promotion they have earned.
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1LT (Join to see) - Does that mean you see an LES or just excited? Do you know when it will come?
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CPT (Join to see) - the back pay should already have been deposited into your account and LES should already be posted. Mine was posted about a week ago.
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1LT (Join to see) - Mine is coming on 1 FEB. guess my state is just a little slower. HAHA, so glad this process is finally over for this round. Hopefully they get this fixed by the time we hit CPT.
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My GKO says orders published: SO# 4; 2018-01-04
Is there any way to view them now so I don't have to wait for them to hit Iperms?
Is there any way to view them now so I don't have to wait for them to hit Iperms?
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1LT (Join to see)
Not that I'm aware I talked to J1 for my state they pull from the system the order has to go from the system back to NGB and then to the states. Since it was Friday it most likely wont be back till early next week. My state says they pull from the portal updates daily be every state could be different. DPRO is actually not as up to date it still shows pending publication so what we see is actually real time with the scoll process at HRC
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Well, I found a flow chart and here is what I understand:
SECDEF (OSD)
Gen Counsel of DOD
Asst Sec Def Mil Pers Pol
Asst Sec Def Force Mgmt
UnderSecDef Pers&Readi
Dep Sec Def
Signature
Quality Control and orders preparation: HRP-A
Federal Recognition Order Publication and distribution: HRP-A (Publication)
What I don't understand is, LTC and below are supposed to stop at SECDEF, get signed, then published. Why did ours go past the SECDEF and on to Gen Counsel? This makes no sense. I'm glad it changed, but WTF. My guess is we still have another month to go.
SECDEF (OSD)
Gen Counsel of DOD
Asst Sec Def Mil Pers Pol
Asst Sec Def Force Mgmt
UnderSecDef Pers&Readi
Dep Sec Def
Signature
Quality Control and orders preparation: HRP-A
Federal Recognition Order Publication and distribution: HRP-A (Publication)
What I don't understand is, LTC and below are supposed to stop at SECDEF, get signed, then published. Why did ours go past the SECDEF and on to Gen Counsel? This makes no sense. I'm glad it changed, but WTF. My guess is we still have another month to go.
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1LT (Join to see) - That does make sense as the Gen Counsel reports to the SECDEF. I can only hope. Unfortunately, with the 15 falling on a holiday, we won't see a change in pay for another month. Is anyone else full time? Each month that goes by is another $1,000 interest free loan the government has with my money.
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1LT (Join to see) - Will the back pay include BAH? That's about 140 per month difference for me.
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Who has a POC in order to get a status update. I hate the thought of just watching these days count up and not even being able to verbally speak with someone. A phone number anyone? Or any guidance as to who I could contact?
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In this wonderful holiday season and the stereotypical fedrec comment, "well at least you get backpay" what is everyone's state order clock? Mine is 303 days
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1LT (Join to see)
Only 233 but the first time I did this in another branch, I literally had a fedreq back in 46 days. Lol. We have come SUCH a long way and not in a good way either.
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Day 182 this morning, has anyone called for a status update or been given any new info?
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I was able to get ahold of someone today and she said that we are back to the ASA. Apparently it got kicked way back and now we are like 50-60 days away yet. this is ridiculous.
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1LT (Join to see)
Right but that was on August 28th. And they hadn’t received an update since then. You’re saying 3 months later it STILL hasn’t left the ASA. What in the world!!!!!
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I'm confused because mine still says SecDef and keeps ticking days with no additional details.
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1LT (Join to see)
Yeah because they can’t reverse the timeline. Theoretically, as soon as it was done at ASA (which it got there on Aug 28) it was supposed to skip right back to sec def and be published after one final review. But NGB Sent it ovwr to the pentagon back in May and have very poor oversight on the process after it leaves their building. When I called in October she said they hadn’t heard anything from the pentagon about the status in over a month. Now it’s been another month but my contact is on leave so
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1LT (Join to see)
Yeah I saw that too. Ugh. I read somewhere the first couple of times it was happening was because the guy that pushes the button everyday was on leave. But as frequent as it has happened lately, highly doubtful. Does anyone have depro access that can see the actual update??
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1LT (Join to see)
alright, its been frozen at 163 for a couple days now. somethings going on, this is ridiculous!
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Scrolls normally take 6-8 weeks once it’s generated but can take a little longer. Lately it’s averaged 8-9 weeks.
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No I’m sorry. I was referring to RC scrolls. I should have asked you which you were referring to first. :(
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