Posted on Jan 19, 2016
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I'm coming up on my 18 months TIG from 2LT - 1LT. One of my bestfriends went through OCS at Benning with me and he will be getting promoted sometime during FEB to 1LT...when he asked me whether I would be I told him "No because I haven't been to BOLC".

He was surprised that I wasn't getting promoted; so here are my questions:
- Do I need BOLC to get promoted to 1LT? I thought that was correct...
- I've heard of other NG LT's that got promoted before BOLC...how does that work?

I've gotten so many mixed answers from my Training / Readiness NCO, Commander, fellow officers.

Can someone please explain this to me?

I have not been to BOLC (Going to QM BOLC in April!)
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CPT Chemical, Biological, Radiological & Nuclear Officer
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Yes it is required. The reason you see 1LT at BOLC is because they went to a two year military college became a 2LT while they finish their 3rd and 4th year....or they are branch transferring
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1LT Ryan Millican
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Actually it's a unit call, I did have some 1LTs in my BOLC class and they were neither 2 year military college or rebranching. If your unit can work it they could get your 1LT before you went if it was due, but it probably requires a waiver and an explanation on why you haven't been yet. But just remember almost everything in the Army is waiverable.
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CPT Chemical, Biological, Radiological & Nuclear Officer
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It's different in the reserves then. Promotion branch at HRC will not promote a 2LT unless they are branch qualified
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just found this thread but here is my XP. my recruiter has been recruiting for 15 years and since I dead set on Cyber he suggested I do reserves because he would have find a unit with vacancy for me. He found me two Units one was corp of engineers, they gave me platoon leader position as O-2, second was signal in cali they gave me a O-2 Vacancy as Battalion Maintenance Officer, we couldn't find cyber so I took the signal. So 1LT is correct it is the Unit commanders call. another OCS applicant from that was from my recruiting station signed the same day as me but he docent get to pick his branch they army picks for him at end of OCS and he will start as O-1, to me the reserve was a better choice.
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MAJ Protection Chief, G34
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SPC Ardalan, you have been only put in a paragraph and line position on the UMR, when you graduate OCS you will still be an O1(2LT). That is where everyone starts. You may be placed in an O2 (1LT) slot, in order for you to go to OCS but when you return there is no guaranty you will be placed in that position.
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1. Yes, BOLC required for promotion to 1LT. Reference: AR 135-155, table 2-2.
2. Aviators, owing to the long duration of BOLC and delay in obtaining seats, have a special provision to gain promotion to 1LT/CW2 with partial completion.
3. As stated in other posts, ECP lieutenants have their own provision of regulation which allows promotion to 1LT without BOLC.
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1LT Platoon Leader
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Roger that sir. In my case I was delayed going to BOLC twice to no fault of my own...I came in after commissioning at a hard time in the year & due to NH being such a small state the funding simply wasn't there to send me until I became a "priority case". Therefore I had several people in my COC that stated it was the BC's choice whether I was promoted or not due to circumstances outside of my control. Apparently they are wrong.

Thank you sir for providing in the reg on this & after looking through Table 2-2 / notes, its clear that BOLC is a requirement for promotion.
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1SG Civil Affairs Specialist
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AR 600-8-29 does not list BOLC as a requirement for promotion to 1LT...
But it should be.
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1LT Platoon Leader
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That's what I thought TOP. With the lack of any AR to point to...I suppose this explains why I've gotten so many "grey" answers from everyone at my unit
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Sir, if it will make you feel more at ease (and yes you need BOLC to advance), there have been rare times where others never had it and went further. Example: My XO went to BOLC-AMEDD and in her class was a COL/O-6 that was a doctor but had somehow managed to slip through the cracks from his initial commissioning all the way to COL until someone did an audit and told him he needed to go.
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Not necessarily true Sir! I know plenty of direct commissionees that are doctors and they brought them in as 1LT’s and CPT’s and had them go to school. So he could very well have slipped through the cracks. 1LT (Join to see)
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MAJ Protection Chief, G34
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1LT (Join to see) - You are correct SIR !!!!!
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MAJ Protection Chief, G34
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AMEDD is a whole different animal
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2LT Health Services Administration
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CPT Mark Gonzalez evey Ammed officer goes to BOLC regardless of what rank they direct commission to.
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MAJ Anthony Henderson
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BOLC is required for promotion to 1LT. A Bachelor Degree is required for promotion to CPT. Captain Career Course is required for promotion to MAJ and ILE is required for promotion to LTC.
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MAJ Ronnie Reams
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no more OAC for Major? No half of C&GS for LTC?
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AR 135-155, Promotion of Commissioned Officers and Warrant Officers Other Than General Officers (Publication specific to ARNG and USAR), dtd 13 July 2004.
http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r135_155.pdf

Page 9 (physical page 18), which contains Tables 2-1 and 2-2 (time in grade requirements & military educational requirements, respectively) should answer your questions. About O-1 to O-2, Table 2-1 says the minimum TIG is 2 years, and maximum is 42 months, while Table 2-2 says the following as the MEL requirement: "Resident officer basic course. (See notes 1, 2, 6, 7, 8.)"

Note #1 is important here, and says: "Officers assigned to Control Group (OADO) (see para 2-8b(1)) and former OADO officers (including Early Commissioning Program (ECP) participants) transferred to the Control Group (Annual Training) or the Selected Reserve preceding their promotion eligibility to 1LT are not required to meet the educational requirement for promotion to 1LT. Promotion under these circumstances does not negate the requirement to complete the resident officer basic course at a subsequent date. Officers enrolled in a resident basic course, who are otherwise eligible, will also be considered to have satisfied the education requirement for promotion to 1LT."

In short, if you're an ECP, you can be promoted at 24 months regardless (unless flagged). Likewise, if you're enrolled in BOLC and hit 24 minths TIG, you can be promoted. ECPs will normally get promoted automatically by HRC, while non-ECP typically have to get the command to sign-off on it for promotion. If you ask nicely, you can usually get promoted while at BOLC, and even if you don't your command will usually recommend you upon graduation. If you go to BOLC prior to 24 months TIG, you have to wait regardless.
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You'll probably get promoted as soon as you get back. Sucks you got such a late date, technically they have within 18 months of commissioning to ship you. To your benefit you'll probably be more knowledgeable than many of your classmates.

Usually with the State/Fed Rec system they'll push your state orders through right at the 18 months, and it may take another 6 for it to make it through the Fed Rec system. Look in your Iperms and see if a promo order's been uploaded. I believe they back pay you for the discrepancy in time though, which is nice.
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1LT Platoon Leader
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Just got to Fort Lee on April 15th! I had thought about the back-pay but who would I speak with at my state to determine that? Any ideas?
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CPT Engineer Officer
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Honestly I'd call your unit readiness NCO or whoever handles the full time manning for your unit. They hit the pay button, so if you have any pay issues/concerns they're a good starting point. It usually comes through automatically from what I understand though.
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MAJ Keira Brennan
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I had a could of 1LTs back in my OBC days. Sounds similar to the olden days regs. Outside of early commissioning you would hope BOLC is a priority. Get er done!
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1LT Platoon Leader
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Roger! I'm here right now getting it outta the way!
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SSG Human Resources Nco
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Officers cannot be promoted or rated as an officer unless they are branch qualified.
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yes is the simple answer and reading AR 600-8-29 is the real one
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CPL(P) Civilian Driver
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Hi Bolc is required. Unless you direct commissioned, then you need it anyway. To get to O3.
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