Posted on Sep 17, 2018
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I know what the regulation states, and that is that E-5 through E-8 (except for 1SG) is addressed as Sergeant. However, I continually see soldiers addressing MSGs by their full rank. Is it a sign of higher respect for the rank they earned, or is just being extra? I can see both sides of the argument - regulation vs respect towards the rank they have obtained - I want to hear all your thoughts!
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1SG Raymond M Baker Jr
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My thoughts, after spending 20 years in the U S Army is that we should be calling our Seniors by their Rank, we should not use Sarge or anything else to refer to a Senior NONCOM! How can we expect our soldiers to respect us of we don't use the Rank of the Grade, like the Marine Corp! As the U S Marines say it, you are never an Ex-Marine, you are a former Marine! Why don't we have the same privilege as the Marines, why do we have to be different!
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SMSgt Tom Burns
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Referring to a Master Sergeant by their full rank is only necessary in certain situations. The exceptions apply to Chief Master Sergeant and 1ST Sergeants. Referring to Master or Senior Master Sergeants by their full rank by junior enlisted personnel is a definitely a sign of high respect.
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SSG Robert Perrotto
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bottom line up front - neither is wrong - I draw the line when a MSG insists on being called MSG - and is my wont, I ask where in the regulation does it require me to address you as such. Senior NCO's are quick to throw "Regulation" at their subordinates, but do not take kindly to having the same "Regulation" thrown back at them when they wish to have their way. Sorry Seniors, it is a truth that bears saying.
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SSG Ken Gilder
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I think it's just being more formal.
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SSG Ken Gilder
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I think it's just being a little more formal than usual.
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PO1 Ron Clark
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Showing higher respect for someone who is enlisted and a top Master in the profession of Arms! A no brainer! It is not easy for most to become a Sergeant Major, it's definitely not given to an individual, they earn it at each place they tour throughout their career! The same with a Master Chief in the Navy, this is a hard rank to attain. You would'nt call a Vice Admiral just Admiral if there were junior Admirals' in the room, i.e., Rear Admiral! Respect the process!
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It's just a matter what you want to call them - you already know what is professionally acceptable.
MSgt Kenneth Driver
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In the Royal Air Force, My rank of Flight Sergeant was always shortened to "Flight" by subordinates and those senior to me IE: Warrant Officers and full commissioned officers also used that term. However, if you've dropped a brick (Bollock), those senior to you would address you as Flight Sergeant....Then you know you're in trouble!...After that just grovel and admit your wrongdoings and pray!
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MSG Stay At Home Dad
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As a retired MSG who worked with more than a handful of MSGs in my career, here’s my take:

I have used the full title, “Master Sergeant,” any time I met a new MSG for the first time. This was purely as a sign of respect for their having attained the rank. If I worked with a specific MSG for more than a couple of days or if the MSG was someone who I saw or interacted with more or less permanently as part of my normal duties, I judged my use of their title on two things:
1. Was the MSG a douchebag?
2. Whether or not they WERE a douchebag, did they TAKE CARE OF THEIR SOLDIERS?

If they weren’t a douchebag then I’d continue to call them Master Sergeant. If they WERE a douchebag, but one who put the care of their Soldiers FIRST, I still called them Master Sergeant.
If they were a douche who didn’t give a shot about their subordinates, they quickly became “Sergeant” to me.
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CSM Patrick Durr
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It's not necessarily disrespectful, it is however not necessary. I recall seniors calling me Master Sergeant all the time. It just seems to be hard for some to simply call a MSG, Sergeant. True disrespect of course has to do with intent. If none was sensed, I didn't mind. I personally don't think it's anymore respectful. However, if you find a Master Sergeant that demands to be called Master Sergeant rather than Sergeant, then I would say...call him Sergeant.
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I think people are too consumed with titles and perhaps too full of themselves. Most NCO's and Officers I served with didn't give a damn. One Colonel hated being saluted. What was that about? It seems more ego than respect especially when two of the same NCO rank have different preferences. I would stick with the regulation and put aside all the ego. It makes me wonder if the person with the ego even deserves the rank. I knew many who didn't.
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