Posted on Sep 17, 2018
Is calling a Master Sergeant by their full rank showing higher respect, or is just extra?
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I know what the regulation states, and that is that E-5 through E-8 (except for 1SG) is addressed as Sergeant. However, I continually see soldiers addressing MSGs by their full rank. Is it a sign of higher respect for the rank they earned, or is just being extra? I can see both sides of the argument - regulation vs respect towards the rank they have obtained - I want to hear all your thoughts!
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I was enlisted and officer in both the Guard and the Air Force. I called senior NCO's by "Sergeant " when I was of less rank. My ward masters in Germany were Sgt Kroll and Sgt Curphey. Never Gunther or Roy (MSGT and SSGT.) The nurses were either Major Bennert or CPT McCabe. My friends were Charlotte (a Captain) and Linda (a Lt.) Both nurses.when I moved on, the NCO's were still SGT Biffle ( a Master Sergeant)
As an officer my superiors were Captain so and so, Major so and so. My friend's continued to be first name.Same continued in the Guard. Other "Army" people used rank as a part of the greeting. Old habits die hard. And I was an officer and a nurse. When I was the comander, it was Sgt, or lieutenant (not "lt").
As an officer my superiors were Captain so and so, Major so and so. My friend's continued to be first name.Same continued in the Guard. Other "Army" people used rank as a part of the greeting. Old habits die hard. And I was an officer and a nurse. When I was the comander, it was Sgt, or lieutenant (not "lt").
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MAJ Fred Peterman
Addendum after reviewing other comments. A Chief is Chief. A First Sergeant is First Sergeant. And the Sgt Major is "Sgt Major " . Didn't know any Marines, so it would have been Sgt. Navy is still a mystery.
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I spent 23+ years in the Guard. I always call them E-8 as either master sergeant or first sergeant (Top). E-5 to E-7 just sergeant. I was always very unimpressed with any E-6 or E-7 who was offended, insulted, or bothered when a soldier did not add the Staff for an E-6 or First Class for the E-7. I thought that was a sign of an overly inflated ego or a severe lack of confidence in their position. Now there are times when adding the extra is actually needed. As in you have NCOs with the same last name but different ranks. I retired out as an E-7 and I never expected or required a soldier to refer to me as Sergeant First Class. That just seemed overly arrogant to me.
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I agree with CSM Z response. Nothing wrong saying Master Sergeant . I did it as a sign of respect.
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Regulation, ran into that many times. Too many times I had to explain what title and rank meant.
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TSgt Daniel Lediard
I find the usage of please very refreshing. It does not insinuate anything except respect and dignity.
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It is showing a higher respect. I retired as a Command Sergeant Major and many Soldiers addressed me as either CSM or Command Sergeant Major when all they had to address me as Sergeant Major. I have no problem with showing the respect as the Soldier wearing the rank earned it
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At one time the Master Sergeant was known as a Master Chief Sergeant. Back then they were refereed to as "Chief". That title was dropped in the early 1980's. Since then different units and schools have different rules. It is up to the situation and this is from the Army standpoint.
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