Posted on May 31, 2016
Is it appropriate for a non-combat veteran to use the Vet Center and/or VA?
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Oh Christ, here we go again with this inane crap.
Fun Fact, SPC (Join to see) YOU CAN'T BE A COMBAT VETERAN WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF NON-COMBAT VETERANS. Period. Your question is fatuous, disrespectful, and divisive. Simply by asking it you infer that you think you're somehow better than non-combat vets.
You're not.
Fun Fact, SPC (Join to see) YOU CAN'T BE A COMBAT VETERAN WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF NON-COMBAT VETERANS. Period. Your question is fatuous, disrespectful, and divisive. Simply by asking it you infer that you think you're somehow better than non-combat vets.
You're not.
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SPC (Join to see)
You didn't read the question. I didn't make an implication either way. I didn't see combat or even earn a patch on my deployment. It "didn't feel right" to make use of the VA/Vet Center benefits. This was never a question about legality, or who is better than whom. So chill. I was using the forum to see what other people thought. In fact, if you had browsed down and read the comments I made, you probably would have figured out that I didn't see combat, so fun fact, be sure of your facts before you spout off.
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PO2 John Cruz
SPC (Join to see) - no worries. You are entitled to care. Don't feel guilty. I am non combat but did nine years. Supported and was released on a medical. Now I am IU. Individual enemployability. Yrs and years later as the diabetes got worse etc. I go through the VA for everything.
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PO2 John Cruz
SPC (Join to see) - I really wish everyone would quit ragging you on this. sheesh. All of the know it all's and scolders. Just for asking a simple valid question. I was at the VA and heard the lady take a call. dude was in for a week and asked if he had bennies. lol
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SPC (Join to see) - I was a nurse . . . not a grunt . . . not a zoomie . . . needed and used the VA Crisis Line . . . needed and used VA Education Benefits . . . needed and used VA Mortgage Loan . . . but I drew a line for myself at using other benefits with limited availability when others need them more. Warmest Regards, Sandy
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1LT Sandy Annala Nurse's had one of the toughest jobs there were, and have my utmost respect!
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1LT Sandy Annala as I recall, you were a nurse in Vietnam, so you weren't just "a nurse," you were a lifesaver and a life giver in a combat zone. It's certainly your choice not to use some VA services - I did the same thing with VA medical services, because I had private health insurance through my employer after retirement. But you are clearly entitled to anything this country can provide for you, my friend!
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I find it difficult to believe such an asinine question is still posted here. When it first appeared, I believed it to be beneath my dignity to even respond, but since I keep seeing it, I have decided I should say something.
SPC Alex Martin, do you somehow believe it to be impossible for a serviceman to be injured in anything other than a combat situation? This is what you imply with your question. In Jan 1979, 3 1/2 years after Viet Nam, and several years before Desert Storm, I was injured aboard ship. My injuries eventually resulted in amputation of my right leg below the knee. So I will put your question back to you; do you believe it inappropriate for me to use the Vet Center and/or the VA? Please explain your answer. And remember, I haven't said where I was nor what my ship was doing there at the time. Being between wars, the VA classifies me as a non-combat veteran. That should be all you need to know to answer intelligently.
SPC Alex Martin, do you somehow believe it to be impossible for a serviceman to be injured in anything other than a combat situation? This is what you imply with your question. In Jan 1979, 3 1/2 years after Viet Nam, and several years before Desert Storm, I was injured aboard ship. My injuries eventually resulted in amputation of my right leg below the knee. So I will put your question back to you; do you believe it inappropriate for me to use the Vet Center and/or the VA? Please explain your answer. And remember, I haven't said where I was nor what my ship was doing there at the time. Being between wars, the VA classifies me as a non-combat veteran. That should be all you need to know to answer intelligently.
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PO2 Weaver Brian
SSgt James Connolly - Thanks. I did receive a combat medal for the situation we were in, but this was during the "peacetime." Cold war, and other odd things going on in Jan. 1979.
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Instead of asking this question, we need to address why all veterans are receiving such poor care from the VA. It is time to stop comparing our health care needs to lines at Disneyland and start giving veterans the treatment they need when they need it.
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PO3 Chris Scheide
Exactly! Time to stop molly coddyling VA employees. Do your job or you're fired. From the top down.
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Yes, a US Veteran is someone who served the US Military honorably.
Do you think our brothers and sisters who die in training accidents sacrifice less than someone who dies via an IED?
Do you think our brothers and sisters who die in training accidents sacrifice less than someone who dies via an IED?
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At first I couldn't believe that this was a serious question. After reviewing comments I realized it was, but still don't understand why it was asked. Of course its ok for anyone who has served in the military to use any VA service/facility. Being in combat has nothing to do with eligibility. Don't know the hard statistics, but I'd wager there are at least 3 people who served in non-combat support positions for every one person who was actually in combat. You're Army, I was Air Force; in the AF we would call your question typical fighter pilot mentality, meaning someone who had no idea what it takes to be able to get that jet in the air.
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SFC Melvin Brandenburg
I don't know what it is for other branches, but 11B requuire about 8 CSS MOSs to properly function on the battlefield.
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Let's be very clear about this issue. You are Nothing Special because you served in Combat ! I want to very Damn Clear about what I am about to say. There are Heroes in every conflict and there are Heroes in other parts and countries in this world. There is but one difference between those who served in combat and those that have not and that my friends is " GOD & Uncle Sam ! You cannot dispute this undeniable fact ! We All did as we were instructed to do and go where we we sent. We Followed Orders. If that happened to be combat related you went. However to deny your brothers and sisters medical benefits and disability because it is not combat related is absolutely absurd. Those that feel that this is just need to seek assistance because your thought process is clouded and misguided. End Of Story !!
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Absolutely! I am a Cold War veteran, and I frequent the VA in my city; all of the time. I Am, however, 100% S/C disabled.
Hope this helps.
-Margaret
Hope this helps.
-Margaret
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Yes, it's the VA, Veterans Administration, not the CVA, Combat Veterans Administration. They have earned the right by their service, some folk were, for whatever reason, not in combat during their career, does not mean they are any less deserving.
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Yes. The Vet Center is also for victims of MST, couples counseling and bereavement counseling for families of Veterans and military who have died.
And the VA is for any eligible veteran who meets the 2yrs or other eligibility criteria of service with the appropriate discharge. Just because a service member didn't see combat doesn't mean they should be ineligible for VA benefits and services. If that's the case, those Sailors injured during the USS Cole, folks injured or maimed in training exercises, or the victims of Ft Hood or the recruiters shooting shouldn't get any services.
All gave some. Some gave all.
And the VA is for any eligible veteran who meets the 2yrs or other eligibility criteria of service with the appropriate discharge. Just because a service member didn't see combat doesn't mean they should be ineligible for VA benefits and services. If that's the case, those Sailors injured during the USS Cole, folks injured or maimed in training exercises, or the victims of Ft Hood or the recruiters shooting shouldn't get any services.
All gave some. Some gave all.
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SSgt James Connolly
vet centers ca about after the Nam,it was supposed to be a front street,vet could walk in off the street and get help,for along time Nam vets were being treated like shit.If they were running a friendly program they were very good.All they had t do was drop in have coffee or a soda,no one pushed you,just checking things out.You did not need any appts.If you wanted to get into a group you were OK with,and listened to other Vets talk about their problems and find out you were not the only one.
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