Posted on May 31, 2016
Is it appropriate for a non-combat veteran to use the Vet Center and/or VA?
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MSG (Join to see)
no absolutely no this is'nt stupid or silly what it is, is uneducated, it is up to us senior leaders to educate, and advance the knowledge we have, so that the future has it also, there are way too many sm's out there that really dont know whats available to them, this is our chance as vets, retirees to give them a chance
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SGT (Join to see)
Its not uneducated except on the part of those giving her a ration of crap. She's earned her stripes like everyone else. No better, No worse.
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SPC (Join to see)
I don't think it's silly, I wanted to know what people thought. I was a social scientist in a past life.
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SFC Carlos Gamino
Oh ok. Very interesting, but It is not silly you are right. Every veteran deserves equal treatment at the VA.
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Every company you'll ever work for has their own health benefits package for its employees. As a member of the military, yours is the VA. The VA isn't designed to be a benefit for combat veterans only, it's designed for the entire military.
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SPC (Join to see)
Looking for people's opinions. Call it a survey on how people feel about can vs. should.
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Yes it is. As a veteran you have earned the right to use them. Regardless if you served in time if peace or time of war. Even if you didn't deploy you have earned those rights. However if you did something intentional to not deploy you are a POS and shouldn't even call yourself a veteran since you were a coward.
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If a service member, with less than a year of service, is injured during a military exercise to the point that can't serve anymore, why would that person not qualify for treatment in a VA clinic or any other benefit? No, that would be wrong.
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I've seen and heard many such arguments. Some combat vets say non-combat vets shouldn't get VA healthcare. Others draw the line at the wire. Some say if you weren't in the shit, you ain't shit.
One real-life example, a hypothetical, and another real-life example with a twist:
1. An enlisted man is gang-raped in a squad tent at a training camp while the rest of the squad pretends to sleep, in fear of the gang. He is supremely messed up mentally, but continues to follow a career. Does he deserve VA care?
2. Two guys volunteer as fighter pilots. Same training, same jet, same squadron in the same country. Pilot One flies over bad guys and photographs bad guy stuff. Congress sees the photos and declares war the very next day. Then Pilot Two flies over the bad guys. So only one of them is a "combat" pilot. Does Pilot Two get VA, but Pilot One does not?
3. In 1960s Germany, 5 GIs are patrolling along the Czech border, and one needs to pee. They go into the woods to pee, and the Czech Border Patrol decides the GIs are infiltrating their country. Czechs shoot, one GI is wounded before they run back to Germany. No war is in effect. No dates of conflict are established by Congress. Does the wounded GI get VA? (In real life, no one was wounded, but it's still a fair question.)
One real-life example, a hypothetical, and another real-life example with a twist:
1. An enlisted man is gang-raped in a squad tent at a training camp while the rest of the squad pretends to sleep, in fear of the gang. He is supremely messed up mentally, but continues to follow a career. Does he deserve VA care?
2. Two guys volunteer as fighter pilots. Same training, same jet, same squadron in the same country. Pilot One flies over bad guys and photographs bad guy stuff. Congress sees the photos and declares war the very next day. Then Pilot Two flies over the bad guys. So only one of them is a "combat" pilot. Does Pilot Two get VA, but Pilot One does not?
3. In 1960s Germany, 5 GIs are patrolling along the Czech border, and one needs to pee. They go into the woods to pee, and the Czech Border Patrol decides the GIs are infiltrating their country. Czechs shoot, one GI is wounded before they run back to Germany. No war is in effect. No dates of conflict are established by Congress. Does the wounded GI get VA? (In real life, no one was wounded, but it's still a fair question.)
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They say there are no stupid questions, then again the person that said that lived before the internet was a thing.
Of course all vets should be able go to the VA, the only reason i can see for this to even be an option is someone wanting to make himself feel more important then someone else.
Of course all vets should be able go to the VA, the only reason i can see for this to even be an option is someone wanting to make himself feel more important then someone else.
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SPC (Join to see)
Funny lots of people think I don't know what the entitlements are. I know what they are, I just don't think I've "earned" it. So I came here to find out what people think.
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SGT (Join to see)
The question wasn't stupid. It was written in exasperation from treatment she's received at the hands of people that are *supposed* to be her Brothers and Sisters in Arms. As I posted further up.
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SPC (Join to see)
Not a female. I don't feel like I've done anything to earn the benefits, so I came here to find out what people thought.
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