Posted on May 31, 2016
Is it appropriate for a non-combat veteran to use the Vet Center and/or VA?
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This question proves that there is such a thing as a stupid question. You just insulted a very large group of veterans.
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We need unity, not division.
I was deployed to two combat zones.
Never had to fire a shot.
I was trained and ready.
I saw dead bodies, and I will never forget the smell of death.
I am not ashamed to use the VA or the Vet Center.
I was deployed to two combat zones.
Never had to fire a shot.
I was trained and ready.
I saw dead bodies, and I will never forget the smell of death.
I am not ashamed to use the VA or the Vet Center.
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I have a question for you, why would you separate veterans into different categories? Combat, non-combat, flier, non-flier, support or the tip of the spear, etc. The troop in the field shooting at the bad guys, and getting shot at isn't there alone. There are 25 support troops for every guy manning a weapon. You have clerks, medics, finance, personnel, supply, cooks, security, engineers, maintenance, truck drivers, and more supporting the guy at the tip of the spear. It doesn't matter if that guy is a fighter/bomber/tanker crew member, gunner's mate on a 16" naval gun, armor, or a grunt carrying an M-16/M-4, there is still 25 guys behind him.
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If it wasn't for the support personal there would be no combat vets!
While in Nam we were told it toke 8 support personal to keep us in the field so without them we could do nothing. No pay, no meals, no uniforms so I feel the job the support troops did helped me do my job and all vets who earned it are owed the combat troops thanks and support.
I remember several times while in the boonies that the support troops sent us cold beer out on the resupply choppers.
They didn't have to do that.
So I feel all vets deserve to have all the benefits they earned while in the service and it doesn't matter if they were in a combat zone or back in the world.
Greg
While in Nam we were told it toke 8 support personal to keep us in the field so without them we could do nothing. No pay, no meals, no uniforms so I feel the job the support troops did helped me do my job and all vets who earned it are owed the combat troops thanks and support.
I remember several times while in the boonies that the support troops sent us cold beer out on the resupply choppers.
They didn't have to do that.
So I feel all vets deserve to have all the benefits they earned while in the service and it doesn't matter if they were in a combat zone or back in the world.
Greg
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Highest respect an honor to combat veterans, always. But this is a ridiculous question. Everyone who raised their hand at MEPS and served honorably deserves to use the facility. There are priorities of course.
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The US Military is a very dangerous occupation, no matter if in combat, non-combat, or training. We do things that no one else can or will do. During "peace time" the military is always preparing and training for the "next war". Accidents happen during intense or non-intense training, people get hurt, some get killed, some are permanently disabled.
The VA is charged to care for and/or compensate these veterans at the same level they are charged to care for combat wounded or disabled veterans.
We are all the same "troops". It is the "luck of the draw" (or unlucky) to have served during one or more wars and in combat.
What would you say to veterans of the Cold War? This was a very dangerous time in history, it could have ended the world. Although there were not very many shots fired in the Cold War, US Military personnel were injured, disabled, or died as a result of training or actual operational missions completed during the Cold War. As was said in the 1960s movie "Dr. Strangelove" we were going to be ready to go "toe to toe with the Ruskies in nuclear combat".
The bottom line; all veterans deserve the best care from the VA. It is a national embarrassment that we don't get that.
The VA is charged to care for and/or compensate these veterans at the same level they are charged to care for combat wounded or disabled veterans.
We are all the same "troops". It is the "luck of the draw" (or unlucky) to have served during one or more wars and in combat.
What would you say to veterans of the Cold War? This was a very dangerous time in history, it could have ended the world. Although there were not very many shots fired in the Cold War, US Military personnel were injured, disabled, or died as a result of training or actual operational missions completed during the Cold War. As was said in the 1960s movie "Dr. Strangelove" we were going to be ready to go "toe to toe with the Ruskies in nuclear combat".
The bottom line; all veterans deserve the best care from the VA. It is a national embarrassment that we don't get that.
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Capt Michael Greene
Glad to see you mention the casualties of the Cold War. I was shot at during the "Cold" War. Hundreds of people, mostly aviators, were shot down or captured by the Reds, and it rarely made the news. Plenty of hush-hush missions and secret squirrel stuff went on, and some of it could get you killed.
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There is no quantifier for Veterans Administration (VA) or Veterans Center; all (time in service) veterans should use these agencies to the maximum extent possible.
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To answer a question with a question.....Who has donated more of his life, a draftee who was in for two years and saw combat, or an enlistee who gave four years of his life staying ready but was never called to combat??
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1stSgt Edward Jackson
All gave some...some gave all. To answer your question, SSgt Helmke, they both donated equally.
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Some individuals served during peace time. Have you ever heard of "command acquired? "
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