Posted on Aug 28, 2015
MAJ Multifunctional Logistician
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I am in a situation in which I am supposed to rate a fellow O-3 on their OER. I am not necessarily in a position in that person's direct chain but per my Bn CDR's guidance, he prefers that I rate this person. Is this authorized? In what manual can I find guidance?
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COL Michael Cook
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IAW AR 623-3: Rater requirements. The rater will be the immediate supervisor of the rated Soldier responsible for directing and assessing the rated Soldier's performance. The rater will normally be senior to the rated Soldier in grade or date of rank. CDRs will normally rate CDRs. Civilian raters for OERs and NCOERs will be officially designated on the established rating scheme. For purposes of this regulation, a civilian supervisor/rating official need not be classified as a supervisor under the Office of Personnel Management classification guidance provided they are responsible for directing and assessing the rated Soldier's performance.
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COL Michael Cook
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IAW AR 623-3 Rater requirements. The rater will be the immediate supervisor of the rated Soldier responsible for directing and assessing the rated Soldier's performance. The rater will normally be senior to the rated Soldier in grade or date of rank. CDRs will normally rate CDRs. Civilian raters for OERs and NCOERs will be officially designated on the established rating scheme. For purposes of this regulation, a civilian supervisor/rating official need not be classified as a supervisor under the Office of Personnel Management classification guidance provided they are responsible for directing and assessing the rated Soldier's performance.
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CDR Chuck Wolfe
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I'm presuming you are a AF or Army O-3 writing a Navy O-3 Fitness Report? If so, the Navy has a performance writing regulation that would spell out the requirements. You should be in the person's chain of command (above) if you are evaluating their performance. Otherwise, you may give their superior your input or opinion but shouldn't write/grade their FitRep.
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MAJ Osc Chief
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I have never seen a CPT rate another CPT, if it is even possible, it sounds like your BC is setting up that CPT for failure. As a CPT, all my raters have been O5 and above; my last OER was rated and senior rated by O6s.
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COL Tom Lewis
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Don't confuse experience with regulations and policies. It will bite and embarrass you later when somebody with knowledge challenges you with facts.
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LTC Health Services Plans, Ops, Intelligence, Security,Training
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Look in AR 623-3. For an AR Officer the rater "A military rater will be senior to the rated officer, by grade or date of rank." However there are exceptions, such as being in a Command position. In the Reserves and the Guard the new EES system and HRC will kick back any OER that the SR rater is not at least two grades above the rated officer unless the rated officer is O6 or above.
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AR 623-3 and DA PAM 623-3. You can rate someone the same rank as you especially if he/ she works for you. Sometimes XOs pin on CPT and are rated by the company commander who is senior in rank ank position. I hope this helps. MAJ H.
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Lt Col Civil Engineer
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Absolutely! As long as you are in the position as his rater and meet the requirements in the regs
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CPT Transportation Officer
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You can rate people of the same rank. However, usually it is dictated by the position that you hold...like a company commander. As a company commander, you may have an XO that is also a CPT. I am a little confused on this one... your rating scheme should already list the Rater, Sr. Rater, and Reviewer. Are you being asked to be the Rater or Senior Rater?
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CPT Battalion Personnel Officer (S1)
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The Rater needs to have an earlier DOR. AR 623-3 2-5 b. 1.

There are exceptions for specialty branches. I.e., I've seen O-4/O-5 MEDCOM Docs and Nurses rated by their commanders who were junior by DOR, which is allowable in certain circumstances.
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MAJ Ronnie Reams
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Medical Department folks are a different breed. Do not know if still true, but back in my day a Bn Surgeon could be a MC officer from O-3 to O-6. I remember we had an O-6 Surgeon and visitors would "flock" to him and he would say I'm not the real Colonel, just the Doctor, the real Colonel is over there and point to Bn CDR, a LTC. Bn CDR rated the Surgeon.
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I've just found out that this can happen, but you need assumption of command orders to accompany the oer
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COL Tom Lewis
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Nope. You do not need Assumption of Command orders. Refer to AR 623-3 and DA Pam 623-3 for authoritative information.
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