Posted on Apr 29, 2017
FN Broc Afseth
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asking to find out what i'm going to be facing in basic (again) but this time in a different branch. if it is possible to maintain rank, what paperwork or process would i need to go through to do so?
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You need to talk to your squad leader and tell him. Then you Will start the process on getting your conditional release form signed and sent up the chain. It's a long process
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PO1 John Miller
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FN Broc Afseth is a veteran, not active duty. So he doesn't require a Conditional Release.
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I read that all wrong
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LTC Jason Mackay
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Talk to a recruiter. Scouts are 19D not 11 series, i.e. Infantry. You may also be an infantryman or several other MOSs (13F, 11B, 19D among them) and earn the 6B ASI which is awarded by attending the Reconnaissance and Surveillance leaders Course.

http://www.benning.army.mil/Armor/316thCav/129/HWLC/content/pdf/DA%20Pam%20611-21%20Table%2012-2.pdf
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LTC Jason Mackay
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SFC (Anonymous) - I was going off published materials from the Benning MCOE when I answered this. I can't see MTOEs anymore.

The briefing I looked at had all 19Ds, where he ATP 3-20.98 differentiates in some Stryker formations and in the IN BN. I stand corrected.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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SFC (Anonymous) - yes, understand that but the briefing was on the Reconnaissance and Scout assets in BCTs, produced by the MCOE. It incorrectly should all those enlisted/NCOs as 19D.
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Last I knew, and, admittedly, my information is a bit dated, every service provides some sort of advancement in recognition of prior service, education, etc. Best advice, in addition to speaking with a recruiter, is to get into the publications that govern enlistment.

I don't know your exact circumstances and I'm only guessing here, but if you are already separated from the USN, you will need your DD-214 and they will check your reenlistment eligibility code. If you have something other than an Honorable Discharge (i.e. a General Discharge), you might need to apply to have it upgraded. Check your RE-Code against this chart from Army.com

http://army.com/info/prior-service/re-codes-explained
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Good luck it takes a seriously mentally strong individual to be a 11b scouts arnt that bad from what I hear
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FN Broc Afseth
FN Broc Afseth
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as a damage controlman, mental strength and dexterity were always a need; if you couldn't keep your crap together and lead a team during a casualty you had no right to be a DC. i'm using that fortitude to carry me through 11B.
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Good luck to you man keep us updated
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Do you have a college degree? Instant E-4! Anyway, keeping rank in the Army depends on how long you have been out and how close your previous job translates to your new job. You should also post your question on the go army forums since recruiters hang out there too. Also what do you mean by infantry scout? I heard of cavalry scouts 19Ds... but I think the Army eliminated many of the 11 specialties (C, H, etc). I think the LRRP units are gone too. Also why did you choose only infantry? Is it just light infantry? What about mechanized heavy infantry? Or Airborne Light Infantry? I was in two different types of infantry units (both light) but one was airborne and the other was mounted. I rarely did any cool shit, except during my deployment. One of my biggest disappointments from my infantry days was the lack of shooting opportunities. I wished everyday we could shoot every week and do field problems. Get ready to do stupid shit for no reason or stand around in formation for no apparent reason or pull security for hours as the COC contemplates the next op order. You will also hear the word frago a lot.

What about being an engineer? Combat Engineers 12Bs is a very intensive mos where you carry everything on your back and engage in the enemy but w/ a engineer twist. I went through the 12C course which used the same course as the 12B but lacked all the cool shit: using explosives, creating obstacles, etc, etc. Plus as an engineer you get to try out for the Sapper tab.

Compare it for yourself:
Infantry = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dY5CPb2GPgs
Combat Engineer = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyoYhLKpQ-g
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SPC Erich Guenther
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82nd Airborne?, no wonder you were bored. You should have been a Rakkasan with the 101st Airborne..............you would still be raving about the experience. :)
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FN Broc Afseth
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Sadly i'm a few credits short of an associates, and current situations kinda have me on hold for finishing up ( BUT i do intend to complete my degree while serving and work towards certifications while i'm at it.) and as for why i chose light infantry, i can't say for certain, or rather it's hard to explain it. but it's what i've had my gut and my mind set on since i saw it. i'm not backing down from it and no one is going to tell me i can't do it. i was an engineer/shipboard fire fighter as a DC in the navy, and while i loved the action and the challenge it brought i\me, it still wasn't enough. and while calvary scout seems interesting, i'm not one to sit post in a vehicle when i could be moving on my own two legs. i thank you for the information but i'm solid and sold on infantry scout.
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Should be able to keep your rank. Best thing is sit down with a Recruiter. They know all the current rules.
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FN Broc Afseth
FN Broc Afseth
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I am SFC, currently waiting on paperwork regarding my last command before we can even get me into the DEPS/MEPS program. i'm asking beforehand so I don't look like an idiot when i go through basic expecting the possibility and then being told it doesn't exist. I've seen that pulled once or twice on a couple of sailors going through the other way around. army vet going navy. was a corporal and ended up out of boot camp as an SN.
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FN Gas Turbine System Technician (Electrical)
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Didn't think you had to redo boot camp for army, they're the fattest ones
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PFC Scott Sanders
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As for re-enlisting in a different branch than you originally served, I believe that question has been answered fairly extensively. On the question of being out for a period of time and re-enlisting, this I can speak to. My brother originally enlisted in 1988 and served 8 years, separating in 1996. After his discharge, he filed an application for disability and was awarded a 10% rating in 2002 for a knee problem, which has since been corrected surgically. In 2012, 16 years after his initial separation, he spoke with a Reserve Recruiter about the possibility of re-enlisting. After voluntarily ending his disability and being cleared by the Medical Review Board, he (re-)enlisted in the Army Reserve and accepted an AGR assignment, received a credit of 8 years for prior-service and he was given his prior rank of E-5 and all the awards he had previously received.

When I asked him about it, he explained that when he met with the recruiter initially, they just discussed what he wanted to do. During subsequent meetings, they discussed his experience and previous enlistment duties. Eventually, their meetings turned into more of a negotiation of sorts. The whole process took a few months, but in the end both parties were, apparently, happy with the results.

Point being, anything is possible with the right circumstances. Just go into tit with an open mind and don't be afraid to stand firm on what you want, but be prepared to compromise as well. With all the stuff happening around the world, the various branches are motivated (for lack of a better description) to sign prior service-members willing to work in certain jobs. And, with that, I wish you the best of luck with it.
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PO1 John Miller
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Granted my info is a bit out of date, so keep that in mind. But I've heard of instances of prior branch (Navy in your case) going Army. Depending on how long you've been out you may not have to go through full Basic Training, but what is referred to as Operation Blue To Green. Check this out:

http://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/current-and-prior-service/continue-serving/transitioning-services/blue-to-green.html
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FN Broc Afseth
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heard that, wasn't sure that i still was able to apply for that since my time out of the navy has been longer then 10 months.
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PO1 John Miller
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FN Broc Afseth
Well, you'll never know until you speak with an Army recruiter and ask about this program. Good luck!
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SN Greg Wright
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Even if you start over at e-1 who cares? It'll only take you a year or so to get back.
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PO1 John Miller
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Cynthia Croft
The "negative" would only follow FN Broc Afseth if he requires a waiver due to an adverse/negative RE code on his DD214 from the Navy.
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FN Broc Afseth
FN Broc Afseth
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but i left with an honorable discharge. and i've been out for about 10 months now... i deoon't remember my RE code, but i'm definitely eligible to re-enlist.
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FN Broc Afseth
FN Broc Afseth
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Cynthia Croft - i've been out since august of 2016, honorable discharge, none of my command talks to me and it's been hell and a half trying to request paperwork from them ( i.e., mast case records that no one seems to be able to find in my public service record. confirmations of awards and training, none of it is popping up anywhere for my profiles. Even The VA states that my medical records don't exist anymore.) National archives been taking well over 3 months to return to me my request for my complete record and i've contacted them over it and i've been told i'm still being searched for.
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FN Broc Afseth
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i've been working on it. phone calls were interesting, got a clerk who was just reviewing my file for the VA just 6 months ago, tell me that my file got lost and couldn't be found again. i was issued an apology and that's about it. haven't gotten a response from any one else yet.
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