Posted on Apr 17, 2014
Is it possible for every Soldier (not on profile) to score a 300 on the APFT?
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Everyone has a limit right? If not we could all be gold medalist in the 100m dash. But is it possible no matter how hard someone works they will never reach a 300?<div>If so, is that fair since a APFT score is used directly to determine whether someone will or will not get promoted based off of their total score.</div><div>For example someone who's cut-off for promotion to SSG is 790. They are maxed out on everything but their APFT. No matter what they can't run a sub 13:00 2 mile.</div><div>Maybe APFT scores should be used on a broader scale. Like points go up for every 30 point difference in score. i.e. 270 and up would be max promotion points.</div>
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I believe every has the ability to pass an APFT. I for one have not reached the 300 point ever in my military career. Being in college as well as doing classroom observation for my degree, I have found myself lacking profoundly in my physical fitness mainly from poor eating habits and lack of exercising. If I was to go to the gym everyday early in the morning, eat a balanced diet and have a positive attitude everyday, I could easily pass the APFT with a 300. I have trouble running and feel as if I work twice as hard to pass that portion of the APFT then anyone else. It all comes down to your mentality while performing it.
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Everyone is capable of passing but I do not believe everyone could get a 300. APFT in my opinion should be scored like you said above points for every 30 more onto your score to motivate soldiers and reward those who try to improve instead of just pass.
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i think everyone should strive to hit 300 and im pretty sure everyone can hit 300 if not pretty damn close physical fitness is a big factor in leadership in my opinion so im gonna say yes
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I voted no for the simple reason that not everyone has the mental ability to push themselves to that level
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SPC(P) (Join to see)
If a Soldier doesn't have that mental ability to push themselves to that level, then it's the job of their NCO to help find a way to push them to that level. My NCOs were not only able to help me find that mental block, but motivated me to be able to over come that mental block. I have to say that there is nothing more satisfying than to overcome a mental block. If the NCO can't find a way to motivate that Soldier to overcome that mental block, then it's time that NCO goes up the chain for help. I'm not saying this to be disrespectful, but I've been on both ends of that spectrum. Like I said, I have had NCOs help me find that motivation, and I have helped my Soldier find that motivation, even with the help of my superiors...
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MSgt Keith Hebert
Question is by bringing it up the chain could've detrimental especially if they are meeting the standard. Walking a razor thin line
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A more important question would be does not scoring a 300 on an APFT make you any less effective as a leader and NCO?
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SSG Robert Burns
That question has been asked in another forum. Here ya go! Good luck! https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/does-a-300-on-a-apft-make-you-a-better-soldier-or-leader
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1SG (Join to see)
No it doesnt, but if you give your all, all the time and are consistent. Your good. I hate the Soldiers that do the minimum and get up, especially NCOs.
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People have different strengths in different areas. For some its easy to run fast for others its easy to do 100 push-ups. I have seen people who max thir runs be horrible at rucking and vice versa. regardless of how hard you train there are some areas that are just not your strong suit, and likely never will be.
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I do believe that Genetics plays a big part on scoring 300 on the APFT, but the main reason most people don't score 300 is because of poor eating habits and training regiment, but that is another topic. How much does proper nutrition and training can effect a soldier's APFT score?
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1SG (Join to see)
LOL... I feel your pain... I have the same issue. However, I hate having older or younger people outscore me on an APFT. I guess is an ego thing...
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1SG (Join to see)
I agree, I myself have SMD (Skinny Man Disease) If I try to bulk in strenght I have to cut running out to gain strength, but if I keep up with my run..I dont gain muscle that easy. I burn it. I just did SLC in march I am 31 and had 60 pu 69 su and 15:03 on my run I dont work out hard core but try to keep it regular so those number are my average "i dont feel like doing this" scores
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Capt Jeff S.
80 pushups in 2 min. is easily achievable, even with long skinny arms. If you were to do 100 pushups in the morning and 100 in the evening every day, you will achieve your goal within a few months. Do them slow up and slow down. Doesn't matter how many per set. 10 sets of 10, or 20 sets of 5, etc. Before long, you will be doing 2 sets of 50 slow with a short break in between! If you can do that, doing 80 fast will be easy. FWIW.
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Capt Jeff S.
You can't take your home gym to the battlefield and need to learn how to do exercises that use your bodyweight, or have a friend add resistence by putting their hands on your back during pushups or pulling on your legs while you do pullups. You don't build muscle until you push yourself to the point of failure and then you can achieve good results by having a partner help you through the reps making you work but applying just enough force to make it possible for you to exert your max effort to accomplish the rep.
Swift, lean and mean will eat Bobby Beefcake for lunch.
Swift, lean and mean will eat Bobby Beefcake for lunch.
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As long as there is no limiting physical profile, I don't see why not anyone can get a 300. I finally got mine last year during SLC and I am 40 years old, I don't know if I can get it again but at least I was able to reach that goal
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SFC (Join to see)
SFC Dominguez: You're almost as old as I am. You know we 40+'ers only have to show up and breathe to prove we're still alive... ;)
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SFC (Join to see)
well, that depends. everyo e is build diferently. some pekples bodies can take. 20 yr beating. others. ant. i think it also depends on the cield your in. admin type jobs might be easier to do that in with 15 yrs in the army. in otger physically xemanding mos's it might be harder.
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Everyone can do whatever they desire if that is a goal they put before all else. For medical reasons some people should not push them self's that hard, other just have other priorities that are more important to their life/family than a 300 on a PT test. when it comes down to it and PT score becomes a priority i believe anyone can do it.
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SSG Robert Burns
No to sound discouraging but I hate it when people say that. Because it's not true. It sounds great but its not true. I wonder if Stevie Wonder desires to be able to see. Despite his unlimited resources he cannot. Can I child with autism, down syndrome, cerebral paulsy overcome it? No they cannot. Can I train away stage 3 colon cancer? Those cliche's sound great....unless you are one of the people it does not apply to. Then it sounds cruel.
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