Posted on Feb 18, 2019
Is it possible for someone to automatically get a P-status after a certain amount of time in the Army?
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A friend of mine has been in the Army a little over 3 years and has failed 3 boards, was counseled for it and so on. He was told he has one more shot to get his P-status or he's barred (he didn't go into detail) but he said something about the possibility of getting it automatically based on the word of the CO or something. Is there something to this? If not, how long does he have before he's chaptered for failure to progress? He wants to stay in.
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“Really wants to stay in”? Ain’t nothin like a personal demonstration of wanting to stay in!
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Under the new promotion system after you've been in the primary zone a certain amount of time you move into the mandatory integrated list, unless you've been barred. Barring someone is the only way to prevent them from becoming automatically promotable. Six months after the bar is initiated the chapter should be initiated.
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PVT(P) Aaron M. M. Bryant
If you're barred can you be removed from the list? Is there a way to prevent the bar? He's a good soldier he just has confidence issues.
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PVT(P) Aaron M. M. Bryant when you are barred you become non promotable. He can prevent the bar by passing the board. Boards are like any other difficult task in life, they just take practice and preparation. If you lack confidence you can't expect to go in there on test day and crush it without ever practicing. Tell him to practice and ask his leaders to do a mock board.
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PVT(P) Aaron M. M. Bryant
SFC (Join to see) - Thanks for the info, SFC. I'll help him get squared away.
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What regulation states that? I have looked through 600-8-19 and found nothing for my case. I have 29 months tig as an e4 and I’ve heard of this through the grape vine but never been able to find it in black and white.
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What garbage is this? Automatic promotion to E-5? It is bad enough that everyone is a winner and there are no losers nowadays, but to automatically make someone a leader if they are not qualified...dear sweet baby jesus. Pvt. Snuffy will be Sgt. Snuffy and degrade the ARMY further.
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They should make promotion board test you on your knowledge on how to do things in your MOS. If you're well trained on doing your job and can teach others then that should be what leaders are, not who can memorize and spit out random ARs and TM numbers.
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SGT Gregory Cole
SGT (Join to see) not envious. I dont want unqualified idiots leading joe to their death because the army automatically promoted them because they were substandard and met time in service requirements.
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SGT Gregory Cole
CPL (Join to see) I agree, but say in the Infantry, field sanitation is important, same with medical and a whole slew of crap that could be useless unless you enter combat with a near peer. However, as was asked of me at my board about where is the school of logistics, who the heck needs to know that.
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SGT Gregory Cole - I got my automatic promotable status and still had to do everything you had to do to become an NCO the only thing different between us is that board. But depending on your MOS I might have had to work a little harder or vice versa.
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