Posted on Dec 4, 2016
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Shot in the dark here...I will have to split my AT into two separate weeks this FY. Does anyone with extensive National Guard experience know if it is possible to conduct a split AT with an active duty unit? Looking to cover the 14-day AT requirement. Nothing more, nothing less.
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SSG Jessica Bautista
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I have actually done this more than drilling with my unit. I get permission from my unit, permission from the active duty unit, and the AD NCOIC will send an email to my Readiness NCO stating what I did after I complete my SUTA. Some units may require a memo or a form, so double-tap with your RNCO.
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Hey there, SGT,
If it is a COCOM, I would suggest reaching out to the Reserve Manager. They would know best. Also, they could grease the skids.

--The plus: you could be "free chicken" and learn a new facet of your tradecraft.
--The minus: if there are clearances to be passed, accounts to be set up, training, etc., 2 weeks may be futile for a AD unit.

Good luck!
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LTC John Wilson
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Almost anything is possible if you have coordinated approval from the command you are assigned to and the command you wish to conduct alternate training with. You will need documentation from a commissioned officer with knowledge of your duty performance to receive pay, however. Your full time AGR/Techs can help with the administrivia.
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LTC John Wilson Roger, sir...I appreciate the input
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Is it possible to conduct a split Annual Training (National Guard) with an active duty unit?
SSG Paul Carrier
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As a Readiness NCO I was able to arrange this for a soldier who was going to be in Korea for her college studies for 6 months.
The active duty FSB was willing to take her in and let her do her AT and drills she owed in their shop.
It was a win win for everybody.

As an m-day soldier I did my AT over the course of three five day periods a couple of times due to circumstances. The reason it was three five day periods is the maintenance shop I was going to work in didn't work weekends.
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SSG Paul Carrier I figured that something like this could be a win-win, especially since personnel from my current unit and the unit I would want to train with have worked together in the past...truth be told, the active unit I have in mind is my old active duty unit.
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SSG Paul Carrier
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Even better SGT Payton.
When I had to come up with the solution for my soldier it was a shot in the dark. I emailed the only contact I could find in Korea, the battalion commander, and got a positive response the next day.
My commander was totally on board finding a way to make it happen and he went to bat with our higher to smooth any objections.
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You took care of that Soldier and your leadership had your back...that's awesome, SSG Paul Carrier !!
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First thing I'd ask is have you spoken to your 1SG, Co CDR and RNCO? If not, start with your RNCO to get a feel for the unit training needs at AT and what deals might be both within regs and okay with your Co CDR. He probably talks to him/her several times a week and should have a good feel for what is gonna fly and what won't. If you've been a solid performer, give me a good reason why you need an exception and someone else can fill your shoes, I would personally have no issue.

As far as splitting with an active component unit, I'd ask why is that necessary? Maybe I'm missing something, but there's plenty of work you can do in your own armory/at battalion - inputting DTMS, supervising an ADVON or trail party, going to a short troop school, etc.
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If your Commander oks your split training form then yes you can!!!
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Assuming you already have a AD unit who is willing to have you conduct AT with them, then it is up to your Commander to allow you to do AT with them. Since the unit has you on their pay status codes they would need to cut you the orders needed for the dates you are requesting. Your unit will need a POC for the AD unit you will be with, this will allow them to verify your training days and send notification upon completion to your unit.
I have done this with several of my Soldiers in the past. The only thing to keep in mind is the location where you will be conducting AT and if the unit is willing to cover the costs. Talk to your readiness and Commander to get what the unit policy is on conducting AT.
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MAJ (Join to see) Roger that! Thanks for the info.
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1SG Al Brown
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First of all, I have no idea what I'm talking about concerning AT's. But what a great idea! I've never seen it before, but you may be on to something in the future. We used to get AD E5 augmentees to help OC at the NTC, but I don't remember any NG personnel when there wasn't a NG unit in training. Also, it seems like the AC / RC folks coordinated Reserve E5s for AD ranges from time to time, but not NG. But why not? Probably a Title 22 issue? Who knows? Sounds like a good training opportunity though.
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1SG Al Brown...Thanks, Top.
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MSG Don H.
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do you understand that to have a good year for retirement you need 60 point. you get 15 points for being a member of the guard. if you attend all drills you will get 48 points for a total of 63 so you really don't have to do an AT.
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Honestly, I'm still getting used to the National Guard way of doing things...I understand about the retirement, but I plan on leaving the Guard after this 2 years is up, anyway.

As for the AT piece, I thought AT was a "requirement".
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MSG Don H.
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SGT (Join to see) - If you are going to ask to do your AT with an active unit have a plan for what you are going to do on the weekends, remember active duty doesn't work weekends. I would get a memo from the unit you plan to train with before hand and submit that with your request. The unit will have to provide a memo certifying that you did the duty so that your unit Readiness can submit you for pay
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PO1 Donald Vinson
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I would say yes, it's very possible but go through your Chain of Command and as long as it is a legitimate reason most Commands will try to work with the individual. If you Active Duty counterpart has a job for you hopefully they will work with you and your situation.
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