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Posted on Dec 5, 2018
Is it possible to enlist in National Guard 11B and obtain Airborne in the contract?
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Or is it reserved for already enlisted/seniority?
I’m in contact with a recruiter from back in 2015 who out of the blue emailed me yesterday and repeaked my interest in the Guard.
Here’s part of a reply he sent me to that question...
“...11B is easy to enlist into. Airborne school is very rare for an Enlistment contract, but I’ll look into it. Those slots are very competitive and usually awarded to those who’ve already enlisted.
You’d have to be in peak physical condition to be considered for Airborne school. For your height I believe the weight limit is 189 lbs (or <24% body fat). Also, do you know the Army Physical Fitness Test standards and would you pass if given the test today?
Yes, 11B is the pathway to Airborne school, Air Assault, Ranger, and Special Forces among others. My office parter is infantry and my boss is a former Ranger. Both love it...”
Should I just keep in contact with him and see what comes out of it? Anyone out there in the Guard 11B went Airborne? I want to achieve Airborne to push myself and also have the doors open to greater and very much more demanding positions, i.e; Ranger school.
Thanks for reading and reaching out.
I’m in contact with a recruiter from back in 2015 who out of the blue emailed me yesterday and repeaked my interest in the Guard.
Here’s part of a reply he sent me to that question...
“...11B is easy to enlist into. Airborne school is very rare for an Enlistment contract, but I’ll look into it. Those slots are very competitive and usually awarded to those who’ve already enlisted.
You’d have to be in peak physical condition to be considered for Airborne school. For your height I believe the weight limit is 189 lbs (or <24% body fat). Also, do you know the Army Physical Fitness Test standards and would you pass if given the test today?
Yes, 11B is the pathway to Airborne school, Air Assault, Ranger, and Special Forces among others. My office parter is infantry and my boss is a former Ranger. Both love it...”
Should I just keep in contact with him and see what comes out of it? Anyone out there in the Guard 11B went Airborne? I want to achieve Airborne to push myself and also have the doors open to greater and very much more demanding positions, i.e; Ranger school.
Thanks for reading and reaching out.
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Or skip all the bull and go active 18x from the get go, make it through the pipeline, grow a beard and do cool guy stuff.
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Matthew Ferrara
I have to wait until my credit is fixed for security clearance, so the beard will have to be postponed. Thanks again.
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I went to Airborne and Ranger (and many other schools) while in the Guard. If you want to go to airborne school as a Guardsman, then you need to be in an airborne unit. I believe all LRS companies have now been inactivated, however there are companies on jump status in Texas (and I believe still in Rhode Island, Indiana, and Georgia).
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Try to get in a LRS unit and you MIGHT! Highly doubtful though. I was a 290-300 PT and I was still denied.
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SFC Harry H.
SGT Christopher Hayden - Being I am freshly retired, I still have Army buddies still in and all around the State. I talked with one of my 151 buddies who use to be in that LRS unit and he said, yes it was decided that all LRS units were to be disbanded and are being reorganized into the recently introduced battlefield surveillance brigades. D Co our Indiana LSR Co is actually doing a reorg ceremony this weekend. Being this is the last month of the year.
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I'm going to fall in with the crowd that's telling you to consider active duty. I served in the Marine Corps, and after ward went to a reserve Airborne unit, and loved it so much I decided to go back to active duty, but went Army Infantry the second time around. I'm sure you're young if you're considering joining at this point, and 4 years +- seems like a long time, but take it from an old guy...it's not. Down the road when you're looking back it will seem like the blink of an eye, and you'll have a lot of great memories that you just can't get anywhere else.
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Matthew Ferrara
Sadly I’m no spring chicken at the age of 28 as my mother would say. Also, the NG, reserves, etc seem to be the only route due to my family obligations. So Airborne may be a pipe dream.
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SGT Richard H.
Matthew Ferrara - Kind of depends where you are. I know there's an Airborne NG unit in Austin, TX that drills at Camp Mabry, and I've seen a few others mentioned as well. There are also Airborne SF units scattered throughout the country, but that's a pretty big time commitment that might not work for you if active duty won't...you're looking at a couple years of training for that.
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In the Army Guard, you are not going to get Airborne school on an enlistment contract unless you are contracting for a position in an Airborne unit.
If you are talking about the Ohio National Guard, you can try to contract for the SF company, or try to get to the SF company after you get in.
If you pass SFAS, you will go to Airborne school prior to SFQC.
If you are talking about the Ohio National Guard, you can try to contract for the SF company, or try to get to the SF company after you get in.
If you pass SFAS, you will go to Airborne school prior to SFQC.
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If Infantry, Airborne and Ranger are your goals, you should consider Regular Army. All of those could be guaranteed in your contract, provided you qualify and a vacancy exists. You would be hard pressed to having anything but 11X guaranteed to you by joining the guard. What you have to understand is that when you enlist into the NG, you are enlisting into an actual unit. If its not an Airborne unit, they are not spending their limited funds on sending you to Airborne School just so you can earn a badge. Sure, it may be "possible" to get those schools later as a Private in the NG, but so is winning the Lotto. Your odds are about the same.
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It is possible to get Airborne school while in the Guard. On occasion they do offer Airborne school to Guard soldiers but slots are rare. For one you have to have very good APFT scores. They are not going to send someone to Airborne if they have little chance of passing, and you do lots of running at Airborne. Another is when you are in the Guard you are "on loan" to the Federal government from your home state to train when you go to BCT/AIT/OSUT. Any extra loan time from the state to the Federal government is time consuming for both sides to process.
Best way to get Airborne is enlist with it in your contract as either 18X or 11X MOS. Any half way decent recruiter should give you a diagnostic APFT at the office to even determine if you are eligible for 11X or 18X.
And to help yourself even more, talk to an actual 11B. A recruiter is trying to sell the Army to you, usually from a prospective they know nothing about. I helped out in a recruiting office for a year and heard recruiters do it all the time. Supply, field artillery, admin recruiters describing things like Airborne, Infantry, and Air Assault in horrendously inaccurate detail. 11B in recruiting offices is rare, so if you run across one be sure to chew their ear off about the MOS you want to go into from someone there.
Best way to get Airborne is enlist with it in your contract as either 18X or 11X MOS. Any half way decent recruiter should give you a diagnostic APFT at the office to even determine if you are eligible for 11X or 18X.
And to help yourself even more, talk to an actual 11B. A recruiter is trying to sell the Army to you, usually from a prospective they know nothing about. I helped out in a recruiting office for a year and heard recruiters do it all the time. Supply, field artillery, admin recruiters describing things like Airborne, Infantry, and Air Assault in horrendously inaccurate detail. 11B in recruiting offices is rare, so if you run across one be sure to chew their ear off about the MOS you want to go into from someone there.
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Matthew Ferrara
This is good advice. My recruiter has me lined up with an SF member that’s in my state to help out in communication.
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I can't stand sitting in classes. Death by PowerPoint. I don't know how the NG is, but in the reserves we had to jamb a month worth of classes and paperwork into two days which meant I got to use my MOS exactly 0 times the entire 3 years I was in. Maybe it was just the unit I was in, but going in month after month and not doing my job was horrible on moral. If you have a high speed team or squad leader, you might get to do a little training in between all the paperwork and briefings, but it takes a special unit to make that happen.
In my opinion, active duty is the route to go if you want to be the tip of the spear. Enlist for an airborne unit (it includes an airborne contract) and don't let MEPS talk you into anything else (they will try). Prove yourself fit and smart by doing your job and staying out of trouble, and those high speed schools will start opening up, especially if you are a PT stud.
In my opinion, active duty is the route to go if you want to be the tip of the spear. Enlist for an airborne unit (it includes an airborne contract) and don't let MEPS talk you into anything else (they will try). Prove yourself fit and smart by doing your job and staying out of trouble, and those high speed schools will start opening up, especially if you are a PT stud.
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I would go talk to a current recruiter, one because things change, and two because some of what hes saying is wrong. Not a lot of airborne national guard units, so they dont like to pay for it. But that doesnt mean it is impossible.
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