Posted on Sep 19, 2015
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So, this girl is 19, 4 months TIS and made Tech. Sgt (E-6) already. Typo? Misprint? Or horrible lapse in judgement?

Has anyone else heard about this?

http://www.usafband.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123449378
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SSgt Tactical Aircraft Maintenance
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This is the reason I stopped serving the military! As an aircraft mechanic I had very good skills, a degree, an FAA Airframe and Powerplant rating I was a seven level. After twelve years with only one real promotion that's E-5 I walked away from it all. I saw favoritism in the system allowing other to achieve rank while most of our AFSC never had a chance. This is the best way for the USAF to loose people.
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CPL Evin Peters
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I think this is outrageous and disrespectful. This is the military normalizing women in what women demand. I have seen to many great combat soldiers who deserve a promotion. All of them have now lost thier jobs due to a "down grade". I would want my sergeants wisdom, and not a opinion.
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SPC Christopher Perrien
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Also note it is easily possible or has in the past, if someone had a lot of college credits or a degree. E-5 with an ASAP to E-6 was possible coming out of basic/ait In the Army.Having a high degree of certifiable skill in an instrument , is what Military bands want/need, not teaching someone how to play. So years playing and possible a degree in the same could easily warrant such a rank. And the the higher pay , is necessary for retention of such people.
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SPC Christopher Perrien
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Years back that was possible in the Army bands too. I met E-6's with 2 years in. And yes the air force, E-5 was possible/typical in two years. We (detail from a tank company)once spent a few weeks on an airbase loading the brigade for NTC. Lotta fun, good chow, and nice Air Chicks, and yea E-5 , 2 years.
Their barracks rooms looked like a college or teenage girl room (cute little bears on shelfs ,pink paint, etc.), and smelled that wonderful smell of baby power, just like girls' rooms back in High School.

Yea , the Air Force looked to be a great way to spend time in the Military without being out in the mud 6-8 months a year, no hard work, and getting half a day to go to college classes, and no chicks in sight.

Perhaps We made an error? Nah.
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PO1 John Miller
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SPC Christopher Perrien
It's STILL possible. Members of the Army Band come in as I believe E4 and once they complete AIT are promoted to E6.
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So, did she even attend basic training? MOS training? Or was this like a direct join to the band??
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Sgt Ivan Radusinovic
She attended basic. The President's Own is the only military band that doesn't attend boot camp.
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SGT Jason Clair
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By regulation, is it possible for her to get E-6 for the time in service that she has served? Why she was promoted is irrelevant except for those involved in her chain of command.
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SGT Jason Clair
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I have no issue with her getting promoted but by regulation how is she that rank. She does not meet the minimal requirements of service time
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PO1 John Miller
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SGT Jason Clair
I suggest you familiarize yourself with this: http://www.usafband.af.mil/questions/topic.asp?id=954

It will answer your question(s).
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PO2 Machinist Mate
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Chair force!!
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SGT Andrew Iverson
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Pathetic, and we wonder why the hair force has all its problems and the other branches have no respect for it.
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SMSgt Cary Baker
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I have heard of this happening before. In my AFSC, it's very possible to promote quickly, but you have to apply yourself - about 7-8 years for TSgt. This young lady has been promoted to TSgt in just a few months - unacceptable in my book. What I don't understand, how is it she promoted so quickly and hasn't completed all her PME? How does this work? She doesn't have the slightest idea how to lead, supervise or mentor airman. As a TSgt, you are the "Technical Expert" in your AFSC. Is there a specific AFSC for Band? I believe this is an injustice to the promotion system, injustice to the NCO corp, and most importantly, an injustice to this young lady. Doesn't matter where she goes in life, she will have no credibility with her fellow airman and NCOs. The AF has set her for failure. I would not want to be in her shoes. However, if someone would have offered that to me when I was an airman, I would have jumped all over it.
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SMSgt Cary Baker
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Wow, I had no idea!! This tells me that all USAF Band members are in this field only; therefore, these NCOs should never be placed in another unit and in a position to supervise other than their own unit. Thanks. And yes it sucks. hahah
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