Posted on Sep 19, 2015
Is it possible to get promoted this quickly in the Air Force? Is this typical for band members?
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So, this girl is 19, 4 months TIS and made Tech. Sgt (E-6) already. Typo? Misprint? Or horrible lapse in judgement?
Has anyone else heard about this?
http://www.usafband.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123449378
Has anyone else heard about this?
http://www.usafband.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123449378
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In the picture this E-6 is clearly outside and isn't wearing a cover but instead wearing earrings
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Our performances are authorized no hat zones. Also, earrings are allowed in uniform, just not big hoops or dangling ones. Studs are allowed.
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What you're seeing there is a couple of differences in the regs between Army and Air Force. She's on a flightline (covers not authorized due to FOD potential), and those 4mm white pearl earrings are authorized per the USAF Dress & Appearance regulation.
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Let’s put a different spin on this.
From the reg:
“Special enlisted promotion authority is granted only for band members assigned to Premier Bands because:”
5.2.1. Recruiting fully qualified professional musicians saves training costs and time.
“Fully qualified professional musicians.” What exactly makes a fully qualified professional musician? And I’m being serious now. Is there a certification process or even documented experience requirements? What exactly qualifies a nineteen-year-old TSgt as a “fully qualified professional musician” other than some people liked her voice at an audition.
5.2.2. Recruiting and retaining fully qualified professional musicians to Premier Bands
requires an incentive.
By incentive, I can’t think of what the incentive would be other than a monetary one. Anyway, there are plenty of other incentive programs out there. We have jump pay, flight pay, dive pay, and so on. Instead of devaluing rank by using it as an incentive exclusively, why not just have band pay.
5.2.3. Members are deferred from rotational PCS moves and must compete for promotion to internal vacancies rather than external quotas.
Last one doesn’t have anything to do with awarding E-6 right out of basic, as far as I can tell. Kind of sounds like how things work in the Guard and Reserves though.
Thoughts?
From the reg:
“Special enlisted promotion authority is granted only for band members assigned to Premier Bands because:”
5.2.1. Recruiting fully qualified professional musicians saves training costs and time.
“Fully qualified professional musicians.” What exactly makes a fully qualified professional musician? And I’m being serious now. Is there a certification process or even documented experience requirements? What exactly qualifies a nineteen-year-old TSgt as a “fully qualified professional musician” other than some people liked her voice at an audition.
5.2.2. Recruiting and retaining fully qualified professional musicians to Premier Bands
requires an incentive.
By incentive, I can’t think of what the incentive would be other than a monetary one. Anyway, there are plenty of other incentive programs out there. We have jump pay, flight pay, dive pay, and so on. Instead of devaluing rank by using it as an incentive exclusively, why not just have band pay.
5.2.3. Members are deferred from rotational PCS moves and must compete for promotion to internal vacancies rather than external quotas.
Last one doesn’t have anything to do with awarding E-6 right out of basic, as far as I can tell. Kind of sounds like how things work in the Guard and Reserves though.
Thoughts?
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Rank implies experience and knowledge. If you need special experience then by all means establish an incentive program. But to give rank with the global expectation that they have the experience and knowledge to go along with it is an isult to those who have earned it.
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thats you new tops in blue mwr smaller band easier to move and transport they are country band
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Not in any way affiliated with Tops in Blue. Air Force Bands are professional musicians that most have degrees in music or their field before they even come into the Air Force. Tops in Blue is made of other personnel in the Air Force being approved to take a year off their job and tour in a band but are not professional musicians; they are maintainers, comm, finance, etc.
This group she is with is actually Max Impact, part of the DC band, and it's a Rock/Pop Group.
This group she is with is actually Max Impact, part of the DC band, and it's a Rock/Pop Group.
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Sure, but the army cannot release promotion board results for at least three months.
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It's not like this is new......they've been doing this for quite some time now.
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So this is why we have higher ranks starting at 1 year TIS on the pay charts. Just kidding.
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We should keep the rank structure the same and use special pays to compensate. i understand the theory behind paying them more (don't agree with it), but just pay them more without giving them the rank. The rank is not a symbol of how much you get paid, it's much more than that.
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How is this any different than college kids coming out at a officer level. Here is my thoughts. ROTC should require mandatory basic training and PLDC during the last 3 years of the program. Maybe they would have a better appreciation and understanding of the subordinates underneath them.
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