Posted on Feb 22, 2018
Is it realistic to believe that a teacher could effectively defend against an active shooter, using an AR-15, armed with only a handgun?
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After the shooting in Florida many people began to say arm the teachers. But they over look that a police officer was there. As a Marine I understand how difficult it is to close on and take an active shooter even with the best training and equipment. During the Dallas shooting 11 police officers was injured and another 6 was killed. Out of all the return fire none actually hit the suspect. Infact the suspect was killed by a remote control robot carrying an explosive. The reason why the suspect wasn't killed by a well aimed handgun shot is because of what we call the fog of war. When the shooting starts panic and confusion set in and the way we deal with it in the military is continually to train for those situations week in and week out. But without a third of the training people are expecting teachers to be able to identify the location of the shooter, know the movement of other armed teachers, know the movement of the innocent students and staff, close on the shooter and fire a well aimed shot without putting any students in further danger. Is that realistic?
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Teacher have to much to do. I wouldn't want then to have the extra burden of a gun. A hand gun vs a ar15? It only takes one round in the right place to kill someone, however just because you have a hand gun doesn't mean you have the confidence to aim correctly at the right time, suppose you aim and its a child you hit?, a parent wont understand if it is their child. Also don't think every educator is mentally sound, give one a hand gun on a bad day!, lets leave security to the people trained for it and let our educators educate
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I totally agree with you. I don't think it is realistic, or even desirable, for teachers to be armed and think they can take out an active shooter. I believe many school systems have implemented policies which include not letting anyone in without proper ID; going through metal detectors, having an officer on scene, etc. I suspect these policies would work if well-implemented. And finally, I do think most of the problem rests with a changed society - our children are constantly bombarded with violent and evil images, video games, ,etc. and our morality is not what it used to be. Having said all that, it is true nonetheless that societies with fewer guns have fewer murders. No easy answers here.
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It must have some impact on the sick mind of a mass shooter. You haven’t heard of one trying to shoot up a school with armed teachers and staff.
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Some, but not all, teachers will be deadly pistol marksman. That alone is a significant deterrent to an individual that has specifically chosen to target the most vulnerable among us.
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I agree teachers won’t have the required training and possibly not the mentality needed; veterans may be a choice but the truth is....it’s our society. There were guns, bullies, not everyone got a trophy when I was growing up! There were boundaries and morals....if you violated them; mom and dad smacked the stupid out of you!!!! Instead of gun control and making parents afraid to discipline their kids; why don’t we just bring that discipline back. I don’t believe we need to beat our kids but a belt across their bottom or a swift pop in the mouth when they are disrespectful never hurt anyone.
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If you're holding an AR-15 and someone repeatedly shoots you with a handgun, how would you feel?
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I really don't believe an armed teacher would necessarily leave their classroom and make an assault on an active shooter. They would be much more effective getting as many kids into a room and using their firearms to prevent the shooter from getting to the children.
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Many of the shooters go where someone is not likely to shoot back- "gun free zones". Just knowing that someone might shoot back quickly will discourage many shooters. You only see in the news where the mass shootings are happening in a gun free zone. You don't see in the news the times an armed person took them down. It happens but the media does not to tell us that. Every teacher does not need to carry, but the ones that do would be trained on the use and be given a chance to defend themselves.
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Hard to say. I agree on the training and perhaps it should be mandatory for teachers to take tactical training. I mean after all we have Muslim terrorist groups training on our own land. And did Osama Bin Laden not say he was going to take us in to a war like we have never seen.... Is this not coming to be fact.
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