Posted on Feb 22, 2018
Is it realistic to believe that a teacher could effectively defend against an active shooter, using an AR-15, armed with only a handgun?
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After the shooting in Florida many people began to say arm the teachers. But they over look that a police officer was there. As a Marine I understand how difficult it is to close on and take an active shooter even with the best training and equipment. During the Dallas shooting 11 police officers was injured and another 6 was killed. Out of all the return fire none actually hit the suspect. Infact the suspect was killed by a remote control robot carrying an explosive. The reason why the suspect wasn't killed by a well aimed handgun shot is because of what we call the fog of war. When the shooting starts panic and confusion set in and the way we deal with it in the military is continually to train for those situations week in and week out. But without a third of the training people are expecting teachers to be able to identify the location of the shooter, know the movement of other armed teachers, know the movement of the innocent students and staff, close on the shooter and fire a well aimed shot without putting any students in further danger. Is that realistic?
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I think it's more than realistic, particularly if one considers the possibility that perhaps there could be a dozen teachers with handguns. That's only on the back end. On the front end one has to understand that shooters target schools because schools are soft targets. Take away the perception of schools as a soft target, and it's easy to imagine there will be fewer incidents in the first place.
Great question, thank you for posing.
Great question, thank you for posing.
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Any time you have a person that loves their job, you can bet your third point of contact he or she will do whatever it takes to protect anyone within their sector, with the training to do so. Teachers have my respect, it’s a job I can not do with the way life has changed me and my thinking. I do believe they could do better from the inside protecting their students once trained than a law enforcement officer coming into the building blind from a known entrance. It’s all about the training and response time. Just my opinion
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Let be realistic, AR-15 is just another weapon & Florida should being stop. Plus they where n’t Prepare to encounter this even. Dallas was a total different scenario yet once again officer n’ t able to hit target
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The police officer at the Florida school ran away. He has now been prosecuted for doing so. Dallas is not a fair comparison. That shooter was on an upper floor in a building shooting at police on the street. All it takes is one well placed shot to stop a bad guy, so yes, a teacher who has been properly trained could stop a shooter.
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With proper training and a safe space for the students a teacher could, if he/she was lucky, ambush the shooter. As far as an actual shootout is concerned a hand gun against an AR is a losing proposition without a massive amount of luck.
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Absolutely! Teachers wouldn't be out "hunting" the shooter, they would be secured in their classroom. Your example of the Dallas event is different than the scene when a teacher has huddled her students into the safest corner of the classroom and is aiming at a doorway. Most anybody with PROPER TRAINING can hit a man sized target standing in a doorway. Further, most of the gutless cowards who do these kinds of things will wet themselves and run if confronted by return fire. Why do you think they choose "Gun Free Zones" in the first place?
Look at how many teachers have sacrificed their own lives to confront a murderer UNARMED! Do I think that armed they would stop the event. Damn right I do!
Look at how many teachers have sacrificed their own lives to confront a murderer UNARMED! Do I think that armed they would stop the event. Damn right I do!
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If the teacher was trained properly yes. The other answer is that we have changed, we no longer teach our children about guns at a early age, or about how dangerous they are, and the consequences of miss using these weapons. Wake up America you've gone to soft.
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Of course it’s realistic. It will require training in CQB and tactical shooting under stressful conditions. And not just one course, but a regular training regimen.
This is close quarters shooting. The active shooter, unless highly familiar with a) their weapons system and b) the school have only the advantage of a high volume of fire that can travel long distances. The teacher has the advantage of being in the defensive, having a chance to set up wherever they feel they have the best line of sight while maintaining the best concealment and cover.
This is close quarters shooting. The active shooter, unless highly familiar with a) their weapons system and b) the school have only the advantage of a high volume of fire that can travel long distances. The teacher has the advantage of being in the defensive, having a chance to set up wherever they feel they have the best line of sight while maintaining the best concealment and cover.
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The active shooter does not want to be shot either, one shot in his direction should send him running. There are no positive statements in these situations just better chances.
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