Posted on Feb 23, 2021
Is it the end of the road for someone trying to re-enlist after they have their waiver denied? What are the next steps, if any?
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So my husband is trying to re-in list. He was almost through the process until a consult with the doctor at meps. He was honest and said he drinks, not heavily but he does drink on occasion. They denied his waiver because of it. Is it the end of the road? Can he try again in 6 months? What are the next steps if there are any?
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Military Entrance Processing Station (MEPS) Waivers Re-enlistment RE Code Medical
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SGM Bill Frazer CPO Andrew Gardiner and MSgt (Join to see) all implied it. I will say it outright.
I'm throwing the BS flag out. Unless your husband is underage, which I assume he is not because you said he is getting BACK in, he was not denied a waiver ONLY because of drinking. Not even for getting drunk on occasion.
Why did he need a waiver in the first place? If the waiver was related to alcohol consumption (for instance, if he needs a medical waiver for a condition that precludes alcohol consumption), then yes, it makes sense. But it is not because of the alcohol, it is because he is not compliant with the requirements of the condition which is being requested to waive.
Think about it like this. Say I was trying to get in, but I needed a waiver for diabetes (which I do not believe is waiverable, but I am using it for demonstration). And the doc asked me when the last time I ate a Twinkie was, and I said that I had had one at lunch. Do you think it would be a good idea to grant that waiver?
If the waiver had nothing to do with alcohol, then you aren't telling us everything - or your husband wasn't telling you everything.
I'm throwing the BS flag out. Unless your husband is underage, which I assume he is not because you said he is getting BACK in, he was not denied a waiver ONLY because of drinking. Not even for getting drunk on occasion.
Why did he need a waiver in the first place? If the waiver was related to alcohol consumption (for instance, if he needs a medical waiver for a condition that precludes alcohol consumption), then yes, it makes sense. But it is not because of the alcohol, it is because he is not compliant with the requirements of the condition which is being requested to waive.
Think about it like this. Say I was trying to get in, but I needed a waiver for diabetes (which I do not believe is waiverable, but I am using it for demonstration). And the doc asked me when the last time I ate a Twinkie was, and I said that I had had one at lunch. Do you think it would be a good idea to grant that waiver?
If the waiver had nothing to do with alcohol, then you aren't telling us everything - or your husband wasn't telling you everything.
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SGT Glenn E Moody
after 9/11 happened I went to the recruiter to re-enlist at my MEPS check up they said that I was color blind & failed the EKG I was honorable discharged 1987 my MOS 11-B INFANTRYMAN M60 gunner/ ASST. SQUAD LEADER the RECRUITER said along with the MEPS DOCTORS if I could get A WAIVER from my CIVILIAN DOCTOR they would take me back in. after being out of service for about 14 years. I was in the National Guard about the first week back after basic training. I got my 1 & only ever OUI the breath test I blew A .09 the law in MA. for drunk driving was 1.0 at the time. that carried A 1 year loss of my driving LIC. through the MA. RMV. I was 1 point under the legal limit for full drunk driving charges. because I was 1 point under it was up to the Judge he kept it in the court system & kept the RMV out of it gave me 30 day loss of my driver lic. to start when i turned in my LIC. to my PROBATION OFFICER & complete the 3 week drunk driving program & pay all court cost 1 year probation court cost $200.00 drunk driving school cost $300.00 paid all fines and completed the 1 year of probation it was dismissed without A finding all in CIVILIAN COURT & NOTHING at all from the NATIONAL GUARD in fact about a year later I got my MILITARY DRIVERS LIC. so I say BS to like SFC Casey O'Mally said their has to be more to it like drunk on duty or something like that or useless waist of time didn't belong in the UNIFORM in the 1st Place
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CPL Ron Dassel
the real question is why was he separated in the first place? was it an alcohol related incident? this sounds to me like the husband is digging for an excuse not to get back in, and the wife is looking to get back into the servicemember benefits.
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There has to be more to the story that you are holding back. What was his previous discharge? Or at the end of his enlistment he was not desirable to keep because of a problem or issues? The only way to get straight answers is to be forthcoming with pertinent information and facts.
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MSgt (Join to see)
Military Reenlistment (RE) Codes | Military Benefits
RE codes are entered on military discharge documents (DD Form 214, Record of Discharge) and characterize a member's future eligibility to enlist or reenlist.
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Had to be more than that, occasional drinks are not career busting but over indulgence is.
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SFC (Join to see)
Recruiter here. I want to know why they were talking about getting drunk with the doctor. Yes they talk about alcohol and tobacco use, but that's a very oddly specific question. Also, if there were a problem with his drinking the recruiter should have talked to him about what is appropriate to say. What is the waiver for?
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CPL Joseph Elinger
SGM Bill Frazer
& that he may not recall the date of his birthday! No worries, from what I see, he could probably run for US President.
& that he may not recall the date of his birthday! No worries, from what I see, he could probably run for US President.
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PO1 Kevin Dougherty
Mallory Massey - Based on the birthday/can't remember part, may they suspect him of being less than honest? Or perhaps a more serious drinking problem?
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I have joined the Army three times. I have had to deal with MEPs a good bit. I agree with the others and say that something is up. As prior service you know what to say when you go to MEPs. If there is no way they can prove you drank then most likely he wouldn't have admitted it. Plus, the circumstance is relative. Unless he told them he drank 15 beers in one night. I have a feeling there was an issue with his first enlistment that he needed a waiver in the first place. He might have been discharged for alcohol related incidents in the past and that required him to get a waiver.
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LTC Jason Mackay
Mallory Massey it won’t say Alcohol. it’s in his medical records and his DD214 as the SPD code, a three letter code near the RE code.
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LTC Jason Mackay
Mallory Massey so I’m guessing that part of the waiver (exception to policy, not a given) relates to if he has overcome this pattern and it won’t be an issue this time. That’s solely evaluated by the waiver authority with MEPS input/recommendation. No one on here can really give you read further than what we have already.
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SFC (Join to see)
Mallory Massey one thing people don't realize is that the entire discharge packet is given to the recruiter, so there is probably something in there that involves alcohol.
Another thing to note is that MEPS does not give or deny waivers.
Yes, the National Guard can give more waiver than others, but many are still above our level.
If you would like me to talk to him, I can. I'm most likely in a different state anyway, and I talk to people all over the planet, so I don't have a stake. I'll be 100% honest.
Another thing to note is that MEPS does not give or deny waivers.
Yes, the National Guard can give more waiver than others, but many are still above our level.
If you would like me to talk to him, I can. I'm most likely in a different state anyway, and I talk to people all over the planet, so I don't have a stake. I'll be 100% honest.
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Something is lacking in this story. If the military denied everyone entry because they drink "on occasion" there wouldn't be a military. In my units while I was on active duty I was the only one that was dry. EVERYONE else drunk alcohol. They didn't get booted out for it. Has you husband had any DUI's?
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I simply want to know why a dependa is on here! Rally Pointe is supposed to be for Military NOT military dependa's.
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SPC Stiv ChenRobbins
There is a category of civilian/military family, so apparently the folks who created the site disagree...
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SGT (Join to see)
You’re always on here with the ignorant comments. You must be bored with your life.
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Mallory Massey Below is one post dealing with a waiver being denied. Search on "Waiver Denied", and then click on "Answers" and you will find the other posts.
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https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/my-waiver-was-denied-and-i-was-hoping-it-would-be-my-chance-to-rejoin-i-need-a-job-is-there-anyone-to-talk-to
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https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/my-waiver-was-denied-and-i-was-hoping-it-would-be-my-chance-to-rejoin-i-need-a-job-is-there-anyone-to-talk-to
My waiver was denied and I was hoping it would be my chance to rejoin. I need a job, is there...
I got my waiver unfortunately denied and I don’t know what to do with my life anymore. I was hoping this would be my chance to rejoin and it wasn’t. I need a job but I cannot find any work at all. I feel like my life is in shambles. I just don’t know what to do anymore. I hear that VA vocrehab can help with getting a trade and they get you a job very quickly but knowing my luck it’s not gonna be that way.
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There is more to the story that we are not aware of… Yes, RE:3 code requires a waiver… The question is, what were the recommendations from his Commander and his Command Senior Enlisted Leader. Recommendations from the command team carries a lot of weight when it comes to retention. If he was separated for a pattern of misconduct, I am fairly certain that the command team recommended that he should never be allowed to enlist in any branch of service. His personal and professional conduct during his prior enlistment was most likely the reason why he was denied a waiver.
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