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We've all seen it. People who are muscular, wide hips, large neck failing the "tape test". Also people not passing h&w due to the Army's unrealistic standards. Is it time for the Army to create a new body fat test and adjust their standards for height and weight? PFC (Join to see) SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL SFC James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4" LTC Stephen F. CPL Dave Hoover SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth SSG (Join to see) MSG (Join to see)
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SFC Michael Hasbun
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It's time to do away with them completely. If you can pass the ACFT, which the Army says is the standard level of performance required to be a Soldier, then clearly your body is good enough to be in the Army. If you're carrying a bit of excess potential energy around the waistline, oh well.
Performance is more important than apearance. Right?.....Right?
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CW2 Bde Ew Tech
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Potential energy on waistline = Survival ready!
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SFC Michael Hasbun
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CW2 (Join to see) - precisely! It's a survival technique. ;o)
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SSG Gregg Mourizen
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Emergency Food Supply.
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SFC Melvin Brandenburg
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On my last NCOER I was rated the best NCO in the company by my 1SG. I have maxed out my civilian education and consistently at the top of the OML. I tape between 25 and 26% which is in regs for my age group. But, because I couldn't get down to 2% or more below the upper limit my CoC wouldn't send me to NCOES. I bench over 300 lbs, deadlift over 350 lbs, back squat 275 lbs, military press 175 lbs, do 66 push ups, 40 sit ups, and pass the bike and walk (either one depending on the day of test). I spend about 2 hours a day in the gym. I am not a couch potato, but at the same time I have thyroid issues and have a hard time getting my waist smaller. I got frustrated with all of that, and all of my joints hurt, so I retired. I think if a soldier can perform well above standard, that is better than having someone who meets the weight screening tables and can barely eek out enough push ups or sit ups to just barely pass. I mean, the enemy won't give a flying fu@k what my BMI is. With the weight of the gear we have to hump dismounted, I would think greater muscle mass would be more desirable. Something has got to change.
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SSG Gregg Mourizen
SSG Gregg Mourizen
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I always went from most reliable NCO to dirt-bag, base on where I sat 1% above or below. My performance never changed, but my Tape test always determined how they say me. I often saw up to 5% deviation, between tapings. Whether using the same person taping or not.
You would think, being able to do your job would be more important, than where you sit on the tape test. That negative attitude, brought on by superiors, was more of a morale buster, than anything else in my military career.
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SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
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I honestly believe that they should brother SSG(P) (Join to see) , a lot of military personnel work out, and that adds to body mass.
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SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
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SSG(P) (Join to see) - Thank you brother Cody.
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