Posted on May 12, 2016
Is it time for the Military to allow such things as haircuts, hands in pockets, and beards?
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Look at the role models each Branch Loves, Marines: in some pictures had his hands in his pockets, and no haircut, Chesty Puller, and General Patton, had his hands in his pockets and no haircut as well, SF wears beards over Seas and have their hands in their pockets. Does it really detract from performance? Is it really a Disipline problem? Could it increase unit Morale?
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Hands in pockets, I can see. Most of us do it anyway. But beards? No. Simply because it DOES look more professional to be clean-shaven or at the very least, neatly groomed with limited facial hair (mustache).
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sure why not? Everyone gets an exception for something these days, beards, turbans etc etc...why bother even having standards?
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As i see it, the dirty is in the details. If you are disciplined to follow the details in garrison you will follow the details needed in the field or combat. It is a whole mindset to pay attention to detail. The details in combat or in the field are not the same details followed in garrison but the discipline is the same.
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SF does a lot of things you will never be aloud or able to do so get over it and follow the regs
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We still had to shave every day out in the field and our Corpsman gave us all buzz cuts which were easier to keep clean than longer hair. "Hands in our pockets" was not allowed ..But that was back in the "Ole Corps" when "Field Exercise" were a way of life & that was not too bad except living on CRats was the pits....
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Not enough bandwidth to resolve all the social woes and attack the silly little things that do nothing but make for a better morale in the military.
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Pretty sure facial hair didn't interfere with their abilities as soldiers....
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If you achieve what Lt General Puller or 5 star General Patton achieved then I am sure no one will begrudge you a hair cut or hands in pocket. These outstanding examples certainly set the standard when it comes to bravery, tactics and leadership. I would not presume that because these men could bend certain rules then everyone should. I would say they earned it, while so many of us did not.
(Sidebar if you look at later pictures of these men in garrison I would say they look up to snuff to me!)
(Sidebar if you look at later pictures of these men in garrison I would say they look up to snuff to me!)
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SGT George Crowder
Oh I almost forgot to add; Anyone can have a beard. Just apply for special forces and pass all the qualifications! (Grumbles about the participation trophy entitled generation...)
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Appearance is one thing. I really dont care about beards. I get the arguments about a gas mask getting a better seal on shaved skin...but that falls under individual decision. However Im calling BS on the need for others to call BS on hands in pockets simply becaause there is no good argument for keeping hands in the pockets...and some of you are only bothering about such petty things out of laziness. Next you'll be questioning having to stand using only your legs and not leaning sloppily on walls. If you are that lazy...or out of shape...then Id question just exactly who the hell are you "serving" aside from yourself, and these things scream "Im an Entitlement Society product who only ever went to a Boot Camp to find the safest and least deployable job so I can leech some college money and healthcare for myself, and have no concern for anything greater than self...and I represent the answer to the real question about NOT why our enemies hate us, but why they no longer fear us." (which in some cases could also argue for not even having the IQ to bother with college).
Semper Fi.
Semper Fi.
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