Posted on Aug 3, 2016
Is monarchy an inevitability in the US given the amount of fawning people have for the POTUS and disdain for the Legislative Branch?
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A worthless Senate run by oligarchs, wasted limited resources, masses of unemployed on the public dole, populist politicians rallying people using class warfare/politics. Could never happen right?
That was Rome. After several bloody civil wars, they woke up and found their Republic was gone. Sometimes they got an Augustus or Trajan; sometimes a Tiberius or worse a Caligula. Never happen right?
That was Rome. After several bloody civil wars, they woke up and found their Republic was gone. Sometimes they got an Augustus or Trajan; sometimes a Tiberius or worse a Caligula. Never happen right?
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Not a monarch. An Administrative Government. A government run by bureaucrats. That has been the objective of the Progressive Movement for more than a century and it is upon us. Congress no longer enacts specific legislation. Then enact enabling legislation and let the bureaucrats implement it with rules and regulations (in other words, the bureaucrats do the real legislating). This is why Nancy Pelosi infamously said of The Affordable Care Act (Obamacare), "we'll have to pass it to see what's in it". Then the bureaucrats administer (enforce) the law and adjudicate disputes (every hear of administrative courts?) How efficient is that? All three branches of government in one. The Progressive Movement have duped people with the old song and dance that this is "progress". (Progress is in their name, isn't it?) Actually, it's very regressive. It harkens back to days of monarchs and dictators. The Administrative Government needs absolute power to implement all this. I don't know about you but I'm an American, and this doesn't sit well with me.
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CPT Jack Durish
SGM (Join to see) - The President "Executes" the laws of the land. Nothing in the Constitution gives him the right to "Legislate" the laws of the land. The President only gets away with it because Congress does not guard its prerogatives as jealously as they should. Oh and on the question of "delegation"... Congress may delegate authority but not responsibility, so if they allow the President to legislate and mucks it up, Congress is responsible. Now tell me, honestly, do you really want to live under a single branch of govt with absolute authority? If so, you can move to anyone of a number of other places. Please don't spoil the system here because you're too afraid to govern yourself.
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CPT Jack Durish I wasn't promoting or agreeing with Madison's, the Federalist's, or the liberal's/progressive's position, simply agreeing with what you stated and letting MSG (Join to see) know where those ideas had come from. In fact, I have always been more a supporter of Jefferson Democracy (also called "republican-democracy") that favored a smaller federal government and more state authority (where have we heard that before)? I've seen the federal bureaucracy from the inside, and it ain't purty!
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CPT Jack Durish So you are of the opinion that regulatory guidance is unconstitutional as Congress did not pass a law specific to an issue?
RE: There is no mention of delegation. There is no mention of US Interstates, shall we do away with those? NASA? The Air Force?
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States ... To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.
RE: There is no mention of delegation. There is no mention of US Interstates, shall we do away with those? NASA? The Air Force?
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States ... To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.
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CPT Jack Durish That's the kind of stagnation that killed the Roman Republic. I guess what's old will be new again.
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There are times now that make me believe that transition has taken place, for the most part over the past eight years. It's time for an intensive dusting off of the Constitution and actually use it as written.
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MCPO Roger Collins I'd like to agree with you but can't as I saw a lot of fawning over the Reagans. Of course nothing as much as the Kennedy's
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It would go a long way if people would stop looking at politicians as celebrities and start looking at them as employees. We've seemed to have forgotten they work for and answer to us. Not the other way around.
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SFC (Join to see) RE: "stop looking at politicians as celebrities and start looking at them as employees." Yes yes YES ... A THOUSAND TIMES YES! I cringe when I hear about The "Honorable _(insert name here)__.
RP Admins ... can you work in an exponentiation icon for the Vote Up please? One is not merely enough for SFC Moysard's comment!
RP Admins ... can you work in an exponentiation icon for the Vote Up please? One is not merely enough for SFC Moysard's comment!
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