Posted on May 22, 2015
Is not being considered for an officer promotion the same as being passed over?
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I was selected for promotion by the FY13 CPT ACC board. However, roughly July 16 I went into the IRR. This was 3 days before the board results were validated, so I was removed from the promotion list before promotion. The Reserves probably passed me over once while I was in the IRR around (the FY14 was probably around December of 2013) not considering that I'd ever want to drill.
The next board was (this time ) 02DEC14 thru 12DEC14 (MILPER 14-213), and I had begun drilling near the start of the year. This board file, however, listed me as being on my second look. I asked about this, but the reply from HRC took too long to get me to the right person, so I wasn't able to get an answer on whether this was correct or not before the board met.
Now I'm half a year out, awaiting the board results. However, I've been reading regulations, and it looks like I fell short of the 1-year rule since I hadn't been drilling for a whole year when that board met. It seems there was a way I could have waived that, but I'm sure that's irrelevant 6 months after the fact. If I wasn't considered for this board, will I be a double non-select? This feels like a weird policy hole since I made an arguably more competitive active duty promotion board three boards ago and haven't done anything to mess up my standing, but I've been commissioned for over 5 year and 4 months now, so I've certainly noted that my year group is approaching 2 years since their CPT promotions.
As a follow-up, I believe this means I would be discharged within 90 days of the next promotion list coming out. Am I reading that correctly as well?
The next board was (this time ) 02DEC14 thru 12DEC14 (MILPER 14-213), and I had begun drilling near the start of the year. This board file, however, listed me as being on my second look. I asked about this, but the reply from HRC took too long to get me to the right person, so I wasn't able to get an answer on whether this was correct or not before the board met.
Now I'm half a year out, awaiting the board results. However, I've been reading regulations, and it looks like I fell short of the 1-year rule since I hadn't been drilling for a whole year when that board met. It seems there was a way I could have waived that, but I'm sure that's irrelevant 6 months after the fact. If I wasn't considered for this board, will I be a double non-select? This feels like a weird policy hole since I made an arguably more competitive active duty promotion board three boards ago and haven't done anything to mess up my standing, but I've been commissioned for over 5 year and 4 months now, so I've certainly noted that my year group is approaching 2 years since their CPT promotions.
As a follow-up, I believe this means I would be discharged within 90 days of the next promotion list coming out. Am I reading that correctly as well?
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Here's hoping we get our results this week, 1LT (Join to see).
This wait has been brutal.
On a side note, if you aren't picked up this time around, have you looked into if there are any reasons, applicable to you, that you can request consideration for a SSB (Special Selection Board)?
https://www.hrc.army.mil/tagd/army%20officer%20special%20selection%20boards%20for%20promotion%20reconsideration
"a. Promotion reconsideration is approved for nonselected officers whose records contained a material error when it was considered by a promotion board. A material error is defined as being of such nature that in the judgment of the reviewing official (or body), had it been corrected at the time the officer was considered by the board that failed to recommend him/her for promotion, it would have resulted in a reasonable chance that the officer would have been recommended for promotion. Reconsideration may also be granted when material information was missing from the officer's file when seen by a promotion board.
b. Promotions Branch is authorized to deny promotion reconsideration.
c. The DCSPER Officer Special Review Board (OSRB) is the agency empowered to approve requests for promotion reconsideration by a special selection board.
d. Examples of requests that may warrant reconsideration include:
(1) One or more evaluation reports seen by a board were subsequently materially altered or deleted from an officer's OMPF.
(2) One or more evaluation reports that should have been seen by a promotion board were missing from the OMPF. These reports must have arrived in HRC Evaluation Reports Branch by the OER cutoff date established in the message announcing the board convene date. OERs that are received in HRC after the OER cutoff date, that are over 60 days past the thru date of the OER by the OER cutoff date, may also qualify for reconsideration.
(3) An adverse document belonging to another person had been filed in the OMPF and was seen by the board.
(4) An award of the Silver Star or higher was missing from the OMPF.
(5) An officer was considered and not selected in an incorrect specialty and the board was directed to recommend for selection by specialty.
(6) An individual's military or civilian education level depicted in the individual's record (i.e., the ORB and/or OMPF was incorrect).
e. Minor administrative errors on the ORB are not a basis for promotion reconsideration. It is the responsibility of the officer to review his OMPF/ORB before the regularly scheduled board convenes to overcome these deficiencies. Additionally, the officer has the opportunity to write to the Board President to call attention to any errors in his record that he or she has been unable to correct.
f. If promotion reconsideration is warranted, the officer's file will be reconstructed as it was seen by the original selection board, the original correspondence will be provided to the special selection board by Promotions Branch. Additional communication to the special selection board is not authorized.
g. The officer's promotion file will be compared with a sampling of those officers of the same competitive category who were both recommended and not recommended for promotion by the original board.
h. An officer not recommended for promotion incurs no additional failure of selection for promotion.
i. If an officer is selected for promotion, the officer will receive the same date of rank, effective date and position on the promotion list as the officer would have received if the officer had been recommended for promotion by the original board.
j. The Secretary of Defense is the final approval authority for all special selection boards. Senate confirmation of a field grade special selection board promotion recommendation is required, just as it for regularly constituted boards.
k. Officers who suspect promotion reconsideration is warranted should request a copy of their file that was seen by the promotion board. Address the request to: U.S. Army Human Resources Command, ATTN: ESPD, Promotions Branch, AHRC-PDV-PO, 1600 Spearhead Division Ave, Dept 470, Fort Knox, KY 40122-5407. Provide the name, SSN, signature and cite the board for which the file was used.
To request promotion reconsideration, write to: U.S. Army Human Resources Command, ATTN: ESPD, Promotions Branch, HRC-PDV-PS, 1600 Spearhead Division Ave, Dept 470. Fort Knox, KY 40122-5407. Cite in as much detail as possible the material error existing in the promotion board file."
This wait has been brutal.
On a side note, if you aren't picked up this time around, have you looked into if there are any reasons, applicable to you, that you can request consideration for a SSB (Special Selection Board)?
https://www.hrc.army.mil/tagd/army%20officer%20special%20selection%20boards%20for%20promotion%20reconsideration
"a. Promotion reconsideration is approved for nonselected officers whose records contained a material error when it was considered by a promotion board. A material error is defined as being of such nature that in the judgment of the reviewing official (or body), had it been corrected at the time the officer was considered by the board that failed to recommend him/her for promotion, it would have resulted in a reasonable chance that the officer would have been recommended for promotion. Reconsideration may also be granted when material information was missing from the officer's file when seen by a promotion board.
b. Promotions Branch is authorized to deny promotion reconsideration.
c. The DCSPER Officer Special Review Board (OSRB) is the agency empowered to approve requests for promotion reconsideration by a special selection board.
d. Examples of requests that may warrant reconsideration include:
(1) One or more evaluation reports seen by a board were subsequently materially altered or deleted from an officer's OMPF.
(2) One or more evaluation reports that should have been seen by a promotion board were missing from the OMPF. These reports must have arrived in HRC Evaluation Reports Branch by the OER cutoff date established in the message announcing the board convene date. OERs that are received in HRC after the OER cutoff date, that are over 60 days past the thru date of the OER by the OER cutoff date, may also qualify for reconsideration.
(3) An adverse document belonging to another person had been filed in the OMPF and was seen by the board.
(4) An award of the Silver Star or higher was missing from the OMPF.
(5) An officer was considered and not selected in an incorrect specialty and the board was directed to recommend for selection by specialty.
(6) An individual's military or civilian education level depicted in the individual's record (i.e., the ORB and/or OMPF was incorrect).
e. Minor administrative errors on the ORB are not a basis for promotion reconsideration. It is the responsibility of the officer to review his OMPF/ORB before the regularly scheduled board convenes to overcome these deficiencies. Additionally, the officer has the opportunity to write to the Board President to call attention to any errors in his record that he or she has been unable to correct.
f. If promotion reconsideration is warranted, the officer's file will be reconstructed as it was seen by the original selection board, the original correspondence will be provided to the special selection board by Promotions Branch. Additional communication to the special selection board is not authorized.
g. The officer's promotion file will be compared with a sampling of those officers of the same competitive category who were both recommended and not recommended for promotion by the original board.
h. An officer not recommended for promotion incurs no additional failure of selection for promotion.
i. If an officer is selected for promotion, the officer will receive the same date of rank, effective date and position on the promotion list as the officer would have received if the officer had been recommended for promotion by the original board.
j. The Secretary of Defense is the final approval authority for all special selection boards. Senate confirmation of a field grade special selection board promotion recommendation is required, just as it for regularly constituted boards.
k. Officers who suspect promotion reconsideration is warranted should request a copy of their file that was seen by the promotion board. Address the request to: U.S. Army Human Resources Command, ATTN: ESPD, Promotions Branch, AHRC-PDV-PO, 1600 Spearhead Division Ave, Dept 470, Fort Knox, KY 40122-5407. Provide the name, SSN, signature and cite the board for which the file was used.
To request promotion reconsideration, write to: U.S. Army Human Resources Command, ATTN: ESPD, Promotions Branch, HRC-PDV-PS, 1600 Spearhead Division Ave, Dept 470. Fort Knox, KY 40122-5407. Cite in as much detail as possible the material error existing in the promotion board file."
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I would think you should also be able to explain this situation, in any request for a SSB.
I've read your first post a few times, and I think I'm still trying to wrap my head around it.
Like MSG Brad Sand said, I don't think this situation should be a strike against you.
I've read your first post a few times, and I think I'm still trying to wrap my head around it.
Like MSG Brad Sand said, I don't think this situation should be a strike against you.
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