Posted on Dec 21, 2013
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FOund a Youtube basic training easier thread... could be considered SHARP

look at the link at the 1:11 second portion with female Soldiers posing in pt tops and underwear.  Leaders are not supposed to be allowing this in open bays but someone took the pic what the crap all...Thoughts on both sides appreciated

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGuG8kiSF-I

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FOund a Youtube basic training easier thread... could be considered SHARP

look at the link at the 1:11 second portion with female Soldiers posing in pt tops and underwear.  Leaders are not supposed to be allowing this in open bays but someone took the pic what the crap all...Thoughts on both sides appreciated

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGuG8kiSF-I

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1SG First Sergeant
To answer the original topic question. Can social media be punishable. Of course it can. Did this Soldier have the permission of those 4 females to post them half naked for the world to see. Is it a Sharp violation? Guess that depends on who sees it first and what the say. I am gonna have to agree with SSG Burns; the thumbnail picture in your link is probably just as in violation of UCMJ as the original post. I know your intentions are good but it could still be perceived as an issue.
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Well that thumbnail is directly from YOUTUBE.com and the creator of the video did not intentionally try to put that out there like that.
CSM Infantry Senior Sergeant
One of the toughest things to get through our young service members heads what not to post on their social media accounts. Particularly on FB where pages like WTF moments run rampant and other obvious violations of the UCMJ are present. I have noticed an upwards trend of leaders combating these types of posts with UCMJ but it's an uphill battle that we all need to strap in for the long run. 
CPT Senior Instructor
Yes but this begs another question. At what point did the circumstance for such a photo present itself. Were they in a college ROTC or some sort of military training. It did not look like a Basic Training Bay. If a unit or training facility was enabling their soldiers to do this I would really questions the cadre and/or leadership. I seems to me that if you are able to take such a photo you are allowing to be sent out. The people should take some responsibility for it. They reflect a poor image of themselves and their unit.
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Ok your right it may not be but whether it was in BCT training or ROTC the problem still exists virally on the WWW........  If you google properly under images searches...  Allot of undesirable and offensive material can be seen and since as a military we are held to a higher standard...most seasoned OIF I vets know what I am talking about....  The pictures and videos are endless against the troops.  My leaders at the time in 2003 and so on had found thousands of female servicewomen devoting time to unauthorized photos and submissions through Iraq so what is the difference between this now and 2003 then???  Is there a UCMJ legitimate rule about social media and consepquences of postings...  I didnt put the thumbnail out there someone else did...
SSG Robert Burns
I honestly don't think it's a SHARP violation any more than you posting the video on this site with that picture as the thumbnail.
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Its not my picture sir go to Youtube.com and see for yourself...
SSG Robert Burns
SSG Robert Burns
12 y
That's kinda my point.  That picture didn't belong to the guy who posted it on youtube either.
SSG Robert Burns
After watching the video (which is terrible by the way) I have no idea what your question is about.
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ok watch it again and after the birdie shot the narrator comedic ally talks about the bunk not being made and when you see the four females without pants in the video is it considered UCMJ if the solider who originally posted it is still serving.  Some would call it a SHARP Violation...Are we held to the fire for Social Media...?????
SSG Robert Burns
SSG Robert Burns
12 y
What exactly would be the SHARP violation?
SSgt Forensic Meteorological Consultant
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It was terrible and I do not want to even think about the SHARP part of it.
SSG Robert Burns
The obvious answer to this question is yes.
SSG Small Group Leader
My wife is our FB admin. I dislike FB and I don't troll the FB sites of my Soldiers. If something concerning one of my Soldiers on social media is brought to my attention by someone who is concerned then I will address it with the Soldier involved.

But sir, I do agree that the info you posted is good to know and disseminate.
CPT Zachary Brooks
Interesting and good to know. Will add this to OPSEC briefings in the near future.

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LTC Program Manager
Edited 12 y ago


I'm not a lawyer but I would say something posted on line would only be
punishable under UCMJ if it interfered with the good order and discipline of
the unit or if it brings discredit upon the armed
forces.

The post would need to be seen by members of the unit and it
would have to effect order and discipline of the unit or those who view the
post outside the service would have think less of the service because of the
post.  I don’t think that is a high bar
for the Chain of Command to reach.

SGT Ben Keen
Hasn't this type of stuff already been asked and answered in this forum?  Everyone knows that whatever you put out on social media for the world to see can come back and bite you in the butt down the road.  And regardless if the picture is one you took or not, wouldn't you think that posting a link with a thumbnail like the one above can or might put you in hot water?

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