Is the new Fraternization policy nothing more than a force shaping tool?

You cannot help feelings. They just are. Accept it

How are those upper enlisted gonna get their down range girlfriends??? Wedding rings came off at Pre Mobilization center!

I always had an issue with an NCO not able to date lower enlisted, but a field grade officer can date a company grade officer.

I have a brother who joined after me, got out and I convinced him to rejoin for a bonus and he ended up getting a commission after I suggested he apply. I started with more rank than him and he ended up more than I. The problem with fratinization regs is that you cannot regulate human behavior, only manage it. And relationships develop and change and so does rank...as long as there is no impropriety it shouldn't matter. When we went on cruise about exactly half our males and females developed relationships off duty..and some lost rank from it and had to go home and explain it to their spouses..unnecessary damage to careers adding to family problems that are already hard due to the military....

I agree with you wholeheartedly in this.

How about if you suspect there is an E7 dating an E5? Same unit, separate sections.

Fraternization will destroy units inside out.

If the current rule set does not make sense what rule set should replace it?

Real question is where are these potential dateable co-workers you speak of anyway? And for why? Lol

SFC Stephens, this is one that has bugged me for awhile now AND even while I was in. Since I've been out, I do know of a situation between a SGT from one Battalion and a Specialist from a different Battalion (and different state) who were introduced by her sister, (also a Specialist in the NCO's Company). Both married 24 days after the AR deadline passed due to many issue's. BUT, both checked with SJA to see if they would be in ANY violation of UCMJ of AR Regulations BEFORE they got married. SJA told both of them NO. Both Soldiers notified their CoC's of intentions of getting married and nothing was said to them about it. Jumping ahead, the Specialist was given a Company Grade Article 15, Under UCMJ. This has soured both Soldiers to the core due to fact SJA would not stand and fight for the Specialist. Again a Sergeant (E5), is not allowed to marry a Specialist (E4) from a separate Command/Battalion.

Ha or an E-7 and E-5 in the same unit .....