Posted on Apr 27, 2016
Is there an AR stating that a Specialist has to go to parade rest for a Specialist?
172K
816
236
33
33
0
I'm am a specialist assigned to a infantry unit, in my squad we have two team leaders who are also specialist. I respect that they are team leaders. But lately they have been giving corrective training for not going to parade rest or by not addressing them as specialist when I myself am a specialist. Is there an army regulation or anything supporting there actions?
Posted >1 y ago
Responses: 137
TC 3-21.5 Para. 4-2 (3) Note states " enlisted Soldiers assume this position when addressing all noncommissioned officers or when noncommissioned officers address noncommissioned officers of superior rank." In your case, this is interpretive. There is no reg stating such, BUT if you don't want to be hemmed up by your squad leader you would be well advised not to rock the boat. A simple method is in place already to address this problem. Those team leaders should be corporal's, not specialists. That is the entire point of that rank in the modern army.
(0)
(0)
As an E-5 I bitch at airman that don't call me by my first name when its just us...around others its a different story. But if an airman and I are working together on an airplane and shooting the shit...don't call me Sgt.
(0)
(0)
Since they are the "Team Leaders" you should '...Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.'
(0)
(0)
It would be just like a civilian job, just without rank. I have a problem with guys who don't respect the position because that guy who may have the same rank, but are being held to the E5 position are being treated as that E5, but everyone else disrespects that soldier because they are still a specialist. If the unit really wanted to treat that specialist as a team leader, my opinion would be to laterally promote then to CPL. It's the most logical decision and it is the reason that the rank still exists.
(0)
(0)
I will ask you a question. When have you seen an NCO or Senior NCO talking between themselves addressing each other by first or last name only? I got smoked by my 1SG once because I allowed another specialist To talked to me qhile he was smoking and me being his senior. Just do it and respect them.
(0)
(0)
In the Artillery units I was a part of, these individuals were made Corporals to make their NCO status clear to everyone else. However, the position grants authority. It's best to respect that before you end up reading about it.
(0)
(0)
is thier assignment above you thats the question, if yes then yes, as a ssgt(p), i was asighned field 1sg, that meant i was in charge period, did my head blow up no, did the nco's above me, get ass hurt no, the csm made that decision and they lived with it i did my job and they thiers, its about leadership training, some can do it other cant but you have to sometimes throw them into the pit to see what they can do, no education can replace experience
(0)
(0)
There are two types of authority. 1 is by Rank and 2 is by position. They have authority by position if you fall under them you need to give them respect and address them by rank. If they are in the same squad I would say also give them that respect as well maybe even the same platoon depending on the size of your unit. As a side note that corrective training for not calling them specialist is almost certainly not their idea, that sort of thing usually comes from a Squad leader or Platoon Sergeant.
(0)
(0)
Being in a leadership position isn't easy and requires a lot of dedication. Just because you are the same rank doesn't mean you dont have to show them the same courtesy as if it were a SGT in that position. Your team leaders are only enforcing the standards that are expected from them. Give them the time of day and perform your job well. That's what they expect from you the most. Being able to follow simple orders shows them you will be ready for their position soon.
(0)
(0)
Read This Next

11B: Infantryman
SPC
Army Regulations
Team Leader
