Posted on Jul 18, 2020
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My buddy is being a b** about conducting CBRN Ops in this summer heat and wants to IG his CO. I’m just curious.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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I advise him to go immediately. It will be hilarious. Obviously never been to NTC. You could spend 14 days in MOPP2. January or July. How about those OIF 1 guys in 2003? Should have cancelled the invasion until it was cool enough.

Now I will say that Commanders are responsible for physical preparation of soldiers to function in the environment, supporting hydration, and monitoring work/rest cycles to protect soldiers.
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MSG Student
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He can call IG all he wants. IG will laugh at him.
There are these things called Training Outline and Evaluations (TO&E) for every task that we train on. On these TO&Es it specifies under what conditions the training should be conducted, CBRN conditions is definitely listed.
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Sgt Jordan Foster
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I get it the heat and mop gear sucks. But the only rules for mop gear are the levels and when you need to wear it. Has nothing to do with heat because gas doesn’t give a shit how hot it is. But the gas mask does have a drinking tube so put ice water in the canteen lmao
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SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
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Very true statement brother Jordan
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SFC Christopher Perry
SFC Christopher Perry
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Water of any temperature has a uniquely horrible flavor when drinking from a canteen via the drinking tube.
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Is there an Army Regulation that has anything to do with MOP gear being worn in certain climates?
SSG Carlos Madden
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I think your friend needs to understand that CBRNE Operations can occur in all conditions. Invading units spent weeks in MOPP during the 2003 invasion. One of the hardest days I had in the Army was the Tech Escort confidence course in July at Redstone Arsenal, AL in Level A.

Make the most of it and think of it as a good training opportunity.
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MSG Intermediate Care Technician
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Tell your buddy, to their face, to stop being a whiny little shit and drive on with the mission. Remind him that Soldiers in Gulf War Senior were in MOPP gear a good chunk of the time. Remind him that the 11th ACR (stationed at FT Irwin, CA in the Mojave desert) will do CBRN Round Robin training in the summer.

Tell your buddy that he would completely waste the time of IG for trying to make this complaint. Tell him that IG will try very hard NOT to laugh in his face.

Tell your buddy to stop being a bitch and to muscle up buttercup
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1SG Vet Technician
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I did NBC AIT during July and August at Ft McClellan Alabama. MOPP 2 for most of the field exercises and MOPP 4 for 24 hours at least once. We were working too; building a decon site and conducting decon ops.

I will laugh in this guy's face if I ever met him.

There is a real reason to get used to wearing the suits in any weather. A simple tactic is for the enemy to hit a formation with a non - persistent and force them to degrade capability then move in a bit later after the agent is mostly ineffective and strike while the target is still in MOPP.

He should go talk to the IG. I will join him and bring popcorn
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SFC Retention Operations Nco
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It's funny that people think IG is a hammer for punishing commands. All they do is review policy and make recommendations to the commander.
I've seen whole brigades conduct their entire NTC rotation in MOPP in the summer time in that Death Valley heat.
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SGM Jeff Mccloud
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IG is there to make recommendations for the commander and handle the occasional founded complaint. Sadly, 95% of their time is spent explaining reg to those who would prefer their own convenience or preference to reg or law.
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SFC Christopher Perry
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We were in that gear so much in Saudi that we got to where we were playing volleyball games in MOPP4. Train as you fight. Last time I looked, we didn’t wait for perfect weather when fighting a war.
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SGM (R) Antonio Brown
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There is no regulation that prevents an organization from conducting MOPP training during the warm months. Your friend should get with his next higher level CBRN Officer and NCO to discuss the training he wants to conduct.
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LT Brad McInnis
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Tell your buddy it is a great thing the enemy will only use CBRN stuff in perfect weather. Then, kick him in the sack and tell him to soldier up and stop being a b#tch.
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