Posted on Nov 6, 2019
SGT Netops Ncoic
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I saw a SSG on Bliss wearing a full color IR flag in OCPs. Is this a thing now? I know the reg says embroidered. Did something new come out or was this guy F’d up?
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SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA
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There have been full-color IR flags since I joined. I know because my wife mistakenly bought several from Ranger Joe's while I was in OSUT. I don't know why they exist; to my knowledge, they are not supposed to be worn on the uniform.
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SrA Roy "Abby" Abernathy
SrA Roy "Abby" Abernathy
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They're mostly just a fashion statement at best. I know AR 670-1 differs from it's Sister AFI, but as far as I know if it's not embroidered, it's not worn in garrison
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SPC Rotational Training Unit
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According to the 25 May 2017 publication of AR 670-1, chapter 19 section 18 “Wear of US flag embroidered insignia”:

“All soldiers will wear the full color US flag embroidered insignia on utility and organizational uniforms unless deployed or in a field environment. Soldiers will wear the subdued tactical flag WHILE DEPLIYED OR IN A FIELD ENVIRONMENT.”

That’s the latest edition I can find, and considering it includes regulations on the greens, I believe it is the most accurate.
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SFC Michael Hasbun
SFC Michael Hasbun
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Bingo
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MAJ Byron Oyler
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Without asking the soldier, it is nearly impossible to ascertain whether he was wearing something rogue or it was issued by his unit and he was instructed to wear it. I am always cautious to ask soldiers uniform questions because if they were instructed by their leadership to wear something, even if against 670-1 and I call them on it, now they are stuck between what higher ups in their unit have told them verses some random major grilling them. You as a peer have easier leverage to ask as this SSG was senior to you and can much easier tell you to pound sand than a junior enlisted tell me the same.
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Is there now a full color IR flag for the OCP?
SFC Luis (Coolwhip) Ochoa
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Next time you see him, ask him about it!
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SFC Observer   Controller/Trainer (Oc/T)
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Are you sure he wasn’t an Air Force TAC-P or Para? I’ve seen them wear it.
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SGT Netops Ncoic
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No, I saw his rank he was an Army SSG.
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SFC Observer   Controller/Trainer (Oc/T)
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You should correct any uniform problems with tact. Regardless of rank. Maybe he would have told you why and you would have learned something? Who knows? SGT (Join to see)
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SSG Greg Miech
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Save your money and go with what is issued as there is a reason for uniformity as well. Some things are good for the field craft, others have a tendency to go into the dumpster after a while.
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The subdued IR flags are only to be worn during a deployment and during field training. If he was wearing it in Garrison he was definitely f’ed up.
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