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I was told I couldn’t get DA selected for recruiter because I only have 7 months time on station. Can I get selected if I turn in my volunteer packet? Does the army still have a shortage of recruiters?
Posted 7 y ago
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Mein Gott in Himmel! Why, would anyone want to be a recruiter, much less volunteer for it. The next time you get the feeling of wanting to volunteer for recruiting duty, lay down in a darkened room with a cool, wet wash cloth on your forehead and think pleasant thoughts until the feeling passes.
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MAJ(P) (Join to see)
It is actually an irresponsible comment from a senior enlisted Soldier. Next time your unit is short handed or you get stuck in the same position and cannot PCS on time or take advantage of 30 days PCS leave realize it is due to the fact that there are simply not enough recruiters to do the job. Is recruiting hard, ABSOLUTELY. Is it fun, not all the time. Is it rewarding? Yes, if you put the time and commitment in to make a difference. Being at the forefront of growing our forces is unlike any job in the US Army. Might be time for you to call it a day MSG. Not all experiences in recruiting are the same. And in fact, if SGT Ms Kabree wants to get promoted to SSG through a broadening assignment, then recruiting is a great avenue.
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MSG Frank Kapaun
CPT Gary, has n the words of the late, great, SGT Houlka, “Lighten Up Francis.” And FYI, I hung it up in 2005 after 26 years, 4 months and 5 days in the army. During which time I served in every component, ARNG, USAR, and RA. And to top it off, the icing on the cake, did an AGR tour as a recruiter from 1987-91. The recruiters I knew, both AC and RC were divided along a 50/50 split. 50% good guys and 50% low down lying, thieving trash that would prostitute their own mother to get an enlistment. I suspect the numbers haven’t changed all that much.
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The Army was directed to fill its recruiter shortages by the middle of January 2019. At that time, they were waving time on station down to one year. Usually, they will waive it down to 2 years.
The Army is still taking recruiting packets, but you won't be leaving any time soon. They may tell you to resubmit once you have a year on station.
The Army is still taking recruiting packets, but you won't be leaving any time soon. They may tell you to resubmit once you have a year on station.
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Trust me... if you put in a packet you will get selected... USAREC is handing 18K to extend for year because no wants to stay on recruiting duty.
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So first and foremost, get the TOS down and then volunteer if it is what you want. Also do not listen to the horror stories or comments of someone like MSG Kapaun saying hide in a dark room. Everyone's experiences are different and it is mainly what you make of it. There are long days, weekends, poor leadership and also great leadership. You have to ask yourself whether you want to commit to making a difference or if you just want out of your current job? Once that assignment in recruiting is over, most go back to their current MOS, some elect to reclass to 79R. The decision is yours and yours alone to determine if it is what you want to do. Turn in a volunteer packet and what to hear.
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Good morning sir. While I believe that everyone has the right to determine which career path is going to be more beneficial to them, I did attempt to enlighted the young Soldier about USAREC and what is required mentally to succeed (largely, a thick skin). I also attempted to enlighten him about other options that I feel would be more beneficial and on the long term more enjoyable than recruiting. We all see the "in your face" USAREC at job fairs and other activities, but as you may or may not know, behind the scenes USAREC can be a very trying and toxic place. I have seen and had toxic leadership, and as an Senior Noncommissioned Officer that cares for Soldiers to the enth degree, I have literally stepped in between toxic leadership and the object of their affecrtion many times. No one, and I mean NO ONE regardless of rank is going to abuse a Soldier in my presence and I'm going to let it slide, which unfortunately is something that occurs in USAREC on a daily basis in some form or another. If this young Soldier wants this life, then I wish him nothing but success and prosperity. I simply wanted to share other options with him.
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MAJ(P) (Join to see)
I don’t think there is anything wrong at all with educating a junior enlisted Soldier on opportunities available. I know all too well about USAREC. I served as a recruiter and Company Commander. There is unfortunately toxic leaders throughout the military.inalso agree u def need thick skin and a tremendous work ethic. So keep doing what you r doing. That’s what NCOs should be doing. SFC (Join to see)
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Hi! For one, whoever told you that doesn't know what they are talking about. USAREC plays by their own rules and I have never heard of a minimum "time on station" requirement to be able to volunteer. As far as a shortage is concerned, I want to say yes, but I have been retired since December and out of the loop since September (terminal leave and permissive TDY), so you might want to poke around a little and get the latest. Now for the reality, because I don't know how much you researched it. I was a Healthcare Recruiter for AMEDD for 8 years before I retired. While the job can be rewarding, it can also be very trying. Have you ever heard the expression "hero one day, zero the next"? Well, regardless if its AMEDD or NPS (non prior service, recruiting out of high schools), that is the way it is. Not to bash recruiting, but I think all who were involved would agree that you have got to have a pretty thick skin. I understand the desire to have a career broadening assignment, but there are others like being an AIT Instructor or Drill Sergeant that would put you on an equal playing field with your peers as far as promotion is concerned, and would minimize your chances of getting an ulcer from the aggravation. Either way, I wish you noting but the best in your future endeavors. Take care!
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Here are the points of contact. Getting your packet squared away will take a few months. Your documents and behavioral health evaluation are good for some time. Submit once you’re ready.
https://recruiting.army.mil/recruiter/contact_us/
https://recruiting.army.mil/recruiter/contact_us/
The official website for the Army Recruiting Command (USAREC)
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Walk outside tonight after dark, look up in the sky, and thank your lucky stars that you are not on recruiting duty.
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If memory serves from other topics and questions here, I think you have to have 12 months time on station before you can request/be selected.
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