Posted on Jan 25, 2015
Is this a case of Stolen Valor or Mental Illness
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While reading through the pages of a site exposing phonies, I began reading about this particular individual. After reading it (once you read it, it's early to figure out his det cord isn't getting a charge.
So, all joking aside, with some of these cases brought up...could there be more of a mental illness issue vs a Stolen Valor charge?
So, all joking aside, with some of these cases brought up...could there be more of a mental illness issue vs a Stolen Valor charge?
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Posted 11 y ago
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But they will excuse murder if u are mentally ill or temporarily mentally ill
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Forget mental illness, this guy needs to get chiropractic care for that big lean from all those medals weighing him down on that one side.
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Im pretty sure I was in USMC bootcamp with this guy, and he got das boot for being a fraud, he said his dad was some Major General or some crap , then he was congress, always lying.
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At the end of the day and the way the Stolen Valor Act is written; It is only considered Stolen Valor if done so for personal gain. Unless he has attempted to gain something from the act, its just freedom of speech.
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I certainly don't condone stolen valor but one look at this guy and you can see he's got bigger issues than that going on. I think we need to distinguish between the crazies and those wanting to inflate their service record.
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1SG(P) (Join to see), I think nearly every case of Stolen Valor equates to SOME form of mental illness. You can equate it to depression and a skewed self-image (in trying to make people look better), then you have the narcissist (trying to bring the focus to himself).
A group that I volunteer for locally has a gentleman that has schizo-affective disorder or some type of mental illness and honestly believes that he was in the 82nd Airborne at Fort Campbell (no....not a typo). He started trying to call out a buddy of mine who is an A1C for "not having his cover on indoors" and my blood pressure spiked and I was ready to jump down his throat for being ate up when I got the "wave off" from my friend. That was when he told me about the schizoaffective disorder.
These are honestly entirely done to bring some sort of focus to themselves or a benefit to themselves. Most are so ridiculously overdone that they have no credibility and as such are more the brunt of humor and irritated stares than harm.
The ones that piss me off are the stolen valor cases that use it to obtain benefits and coerce the system. These people could fall under a borderline personality disorder, or even sociopaths in extreme cases. They don't care that they are taking money from people that need it, or that they are generating some degree of skepticism in the general population with regards to overall disabled veterans.
There are a VERY small number of people that could be so desperate that they think lying about their service is the only way to get help. These are generally homeless people or those that are in danger of losing their homes. And the sad thing is....they can be right too, as many social services are so underfunded and overwhelmed that getting help can be a challenge.
That doesn't necessarily excuse them. I think it should be evaluated on "what did they gain?" Those defrauding the system to obtain financial gain should absolutely be prosecuted to the fullest extent. Those that are just simple clowns like this one and some of the "MSG/CSM/GEN" that are just simply too ridiculous to be given ANY credibility.
v/r,
CPT Butler
A group that I volunteer for locally has a gentleman that has schizo-affective disorder or some type of mental illness and honestly believes that he was in the 82nd Airborne at Fort Campbell (no....not a typo). He started trying to call out a buddy of mine who is an A1C for "not having his cover on indoors" and my blood pressure spiked and I was ready to jump down his throat for being ate up when I got the "wave off" from my friend. That was when he told me about the schizoaffective disorder.
These are honestly entirely done to bring some sort of focus to themselves or a benefit to themselves. Most are so ridiculously overdone that they have no credibility and as such are more the brunt of humor and irritated stares than harm.
The ones that piss me off are the stolen valor cases that use it to obtain benefits and coerce the system. These people could fall under a borderline personality disorder, or even sociopaths in extreme cases. They don't care that they are taking money from people that need it, or that they are generating some degree of skepticism in the general population with regards to overall disabled veterans.
There are a VERY small number of people that could be so desperate that they think lying about their service is the only way to get help. These are generally homeless people or those that are in danger of losing their homes. And the sad thing is....they can be right too, as many social services are so underfunded and overwhelmed that getting help can be a challenge.
That doesn't necessarily excuse them. I think it should be evaluated on "what did they gain?" Those defrauding the system to obtain financial gain should absolutely be prosecuted to the fullest extent. Those that are just simple clowns like this one and some of the "MSG/CSM/GEN" that are just simply too ridiculous to be given ANY credibility.
v/r,
CPT Butler
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