Posted on Jul 10, 2015
SFC Andrew B.
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I am a SSG whom went TDY to Fort Hood. My unit put me in the barracks with a SPC room mate (they are a permanent resident there, not TDY with me). The room was not only dirty as all get out, but smelled like month old dirty clothes. I did ensure the SM cleaned his room and the common areas on day one and throughout my TDY.

Not only did I find it quite strange, but they also put me in the barracks management system as a "PFC" in order for it to register as me being able to stay in the barracks. ( I found this out on the day I "cleared" my room) My question is:

Does any of this make sense? Have any of you ran into a similar situation before? Is this common practice?

Don't take this as complaining or anything like that. I am just trying to educate myself on this situation. It all seemed a bit off from the get-go.
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MSG Intermediate Care Technician
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Something (besides that SPC's room) does not smell kosher.
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COL Jean (John) F. B.
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SFC Andrew B. - Does not should kosher to me. An NCO should never be roomed with a junior enlisted member. First I have ever heard of this happening, although I am sure it is not the first time it has happened.
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SSG (ret) William Martin
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SFC Andrew B. - I don't think what they did was legal if you receive BAH. Someone was going cheap to save money. Perhaps they should have put you in actual Army lodging and not unit "lodging".
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SFC Andrew B.
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Sir, I do believe according to the FSBP (First Sergeants Barracks Program) that a SM can not be moved in order for a NCO to have their own room. But, this pertains to perm. party as far as I am tracking. I did not see anything about utilizing the barracks for TDY in the program/initiative.

That's what I was trying to get put into. I am married so I do indeed receive BAH.
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SGT Kevin Turman
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This happened to me once at Fort Hood. I was placed in a room with a SPC. After personally catching the SM doing drugs in the room, I reported it to the barracks management and the MPs. SM's CoC said they would handle it. Needless to say I had to jump rank structure to get moved. Ive heard of this happening but there's no reason because of the numerous new buildings being finished all over post.
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SFC Andrew B.
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They even have brand new on post lodging that was available while here. I did voice my issues and I did voice it to the housing office and my BN. Before, and after getting here for TDY.
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SFC Andrew B.
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Forgot to mention, it's not a big deal. But, the first 3-4 days I was TDY there was no A/C in my room.
I mentioned the stink and issues with having a lower enlisted room mate
I mentioned the issues with the cleanliness of the SM's room/common area as well.
My room wasn't clean to begin with so I laughed pretty hard when I was told I had to "clear/clean" to leave.
When did we get away from doing barracks inspections and holding SM's to a standard of cleanliness?

I voiced this to the housing office and they said tough luck, it's your room, make a work order request. When I was told that I went ahead and stepped in and made the individual clean his mess and keep it that way while I was there. I was trying to give his unit a chance to fix him and see the issue themselves before I stepped in.
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Just a general question as to broaden my knowledge on barracks utilization.
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I need some clarity first. Who were you there for? What was your TDY for? Whose barracks were you put up in?
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SFC Andrew B.
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MSG,
I was/am here (cleared my barracks during lunch today) for the ALPC offered through CTC/III Corps school house. Put into my brigades barracks (48th CM BDE), through my unit which is 22nd CM BN out of APG, MD. All the arrangements were made through the BN and the housing office.
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1SG First Sergeant
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That doesn't sound right, at all. If only based on AR 600-20, the army's new policy on fraternization of junior enlisted and NCOs. I would be curious to see what they deemed to be an operational requirement in this situation. You should have been housed, at least, with another NCO but, most likely, in the hotel on post.
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SFC Andrew B.
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MSG,
I do know at first they were trying to give me NO PER DIEM. Trying to find a way to give me a meal card while TDY, based off of there being DFAC's here. I had to show them in ATRRS where it states class hours would impede me being able to eat at the DFAC. Pinching pennies is one thing, but all this seems a bit far.
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That's today's army. We are swimming in heavy currents these days
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SFC Jason Heritage
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Can't say I have any experience there, however, I went TDY to Fort Knox and was put up in condemned barracks. We only found out when the fire alarm wouldn't shut off and the fire department had to come out. We were asked who authorized us staying there, the Post XO ended up getting involved.
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SFC Andrew B.
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That had to be quite a unique experience! I have never been placed in condemned barracks. This whole situation has just struck me as odd.
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SFC Counterfire Nco
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That's the dumbest thing ever. Why would they put you in the barracks when you are on TDY?
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SFC Andrew B.
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I believe it is a effort of "saving" money by putting anyone who is SSG and below on tdy to hood in the barracks.
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SFC(P) John McLaughlin
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First off sounds like FT Hood housing is dropping the ball. Second an NCO should never share with an lower enlisted. Third TDY should be housed in guest housing or off post hotel. Seems like to many civilians running things.
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SFC Andrew B.
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The barracks management was run by military. Seems like they found a way to cut corners to try and save a few dollars
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SFC Ronnie Seaton Jr
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You should have a government travel card and be authorized to use it for TDY. That would have solved the issue by going to the lodging office and renting a hotel room. That's my experience.
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SFC Andrew B.
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Roger, usually that isn't a big deal. But the housing office wouldn't give me a statement of non-avail. Since it was a deal made between my BN schools (who runs dts) and BDE my voucher would have never been cleared unless I paid out of pocket for the hotel.
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SFC Ronnie Seaton Jr
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Chalk it up as a learning experience. On what not to do, and what not to let happen to your soldiers.
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SFC Andrew B.
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Roger that's why I was looking into it , to find out if this was a legal way of housing TDY personnel. It's said and done for me, but if I can improve another's experience that is my goal.
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SFC Andrew B.
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Roger, that is actually the bottom line. Is if this is a legit way of doing business. I have read the FSBI/FSBP and neither mention utilizing barracks for TDY personnel. Much less falsifying, stating I'm a PFC in order to throw me into a room.
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SFC Rollie Hubbard
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TDY personnel should never be housed with permanent party troops.
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