Posted on Sep 1, 2015
Kentucky clerk still won't issue same-sex marriage licenses; What is your opinion on this article?
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I guess if being in contempt of court is a good idea. Because if she ends up in front of the Judge again, there will be a fine and more time.
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I will stand by my position PFC Al Sethre that they should all be fired. Beyond that, I think we need to get rid of political parties, have several candidates on the ballot, and actually have choices when it comes to whom we elect. Choosing chicken or turkey is beyond old. I think that this lady is no different than a radical Muslim who wants to see their idea of morality pushed onto everyone. As far as alienating people, I don't think that either party gives a shit about the people. If they did, we not be seeing Hillary the liar, and Donald the bankrupter as the leading candidates for the respective parties. I am happy to see that both parties are alienating their supporters. I hope that it leads to at least an honest discussion about what makes someone qualified to sit in the big chair.
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She should have followed the Law! By refusing to issue the same-sex marriage licenses only presents Bias and Prejudice!
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for someone who mothered at least 2 children from extra marital relationships..... hope she likes prison.
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I think she is working under the premise of religious freedom, but some others are interpreting this as questioning whether Supreme Court's decisions should just uphold or strike down a law or whether decisions can change and create new laws.
As she is an elected official, Kentucky can't just fire her and get a new County Clerk. I'm sitting on the fence watching this develop. Some Constitutional lawyer might decide to pick up this hot potato.
As she is an elected official, Kentucky can't just fire her and get a new County Clerk. I'm sitting on the fence watching this develop. Some Constitutional lawyer might decide to pick up this hot potato.
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What violent remarks?
People should just stick to the facts. The clerk's past with her ex-husbands doesn't matter and her feelings about same-sex marriage don't matter. Those factors have no bearing on why she is in jail. What matters is that she is an elected official who refuses to do her job. That's why she's in jail. (I wish we could do that to our elected officials in DC - on both sides of the aisle.)
It doesn't matter what job you do, but when you sign up for it, you sign up for the job requirements. I didn't want to go to Iraq, but it fell under my job requirements so I went and did as good a job as I could. I'm sure that before the Supreme Court ruled same sex marriage constitutional, there were some clerks who wanted to issue gays marriage licenses, but legally couldn't. Just like they couldn't before now that same sex marriage is legal, she HAS to...by law.
The clerk can have all the religious reason she wants to disagree with same sex marriage. She has a right to her opinion. But when that opinion causes her to refuse to meet the conditions of her employment, she doesn't need to do that job anymore. They can't just fire her unfortunately. The people of Kentucky will have to wait for the legislature to get off their butts and impeach her. Luckily for those waiting to get married, her deputy clerks have been issuing marriage licenses.
And to all those saying she represents them as county clerk, remember she is also supposed to represent the gays in the county as well. Simply: Leave religion at home, just do your job.
People should just stick to the facts. The clerk's past with her ex-husbands doesn't matter and her feelings about same-sex marriage don't matter. Those factors have no bearing on why she is in jail. What matters is that she is an elected official who refuses to do her job. That's why she's in jail. (I wish we could do that to our elected officials in DC - on both sides of the aisle.)
It doesn't matter what job you do, but when you sign up for it, you sign up for the job requirements. I didn't want to go to Iraq, but it fell under my job requirements so I went and did as good a job as I could. I'm sure that before the Supreme Court ruled same sex marriage constitutional, there were some clerks who wanted to issue gays marriage licenses, but legally couldn't. Just like they couldn't before now that same sex marriage is legal, she HAS to...by law.
The clerk can have all the religious reason she wants to disagree with same sex marriage. She has a right to her opinion. But when that opinion causes her to refuse to meet the conditions of her employment, she doesn't need to do that job anymore. They can't just fire her unfortunately. The people of Kentucky will have to wait for the legislature to get off their butts and impeach her. Luckily for those waiting to get married, her deputy clerks have been issuing marriage licenses.
And to all those saying she represents them as county clerk, remember she is also supposed to represent the gays in the county as well. Simply: Leave religion at home, just do your job.
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There are some in the LGBT community that are supporting her religious beliefs. It's ironic that people in that community can still interpret the Constitution as it's written and don't want it changed to fit their feelings. Yet, some in the military who have swore an oath to defend it, interpret it incorrectly.
"Once again, the gay community feels the need to be sore winners," he continued. "Is it so difficult to allow this women her religion? Or must we destroy her in order for her to betray her faith. No matter how we judge, it's truth. The rights we have all fought for, mean nothing, if we deny her hers."
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/madonnas-brother-defends-jailed-clerk-820753
"Once again, the gay community feels the need to be sore winners," he continued. "Is it so difficult to allow this women her religion? Or must we destroy her in order for her to betray her faith. No matter how we judge, it's truth. The rights we have all fought for, mean nothing, if we deny her hers."
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/madonnas-brother-defends-jailed-clerk-820753
Madonna's Brother Defends Jailed Clerk Who Refused Marriage Licenses for Gay Couples
Madonna's brother, ChristopherCiccone, is speaking out in defense of the county clerk in Kentucky who was recently jailed after refusing to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples.
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She is standing up for her beliefs. Why jail her for that? This is stuff you hear about in other countries but not in America. Im scared for the fact that we are becoming like one of these countries
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Again, that's not why she is in jail. She is in jail because the judge ordered her to do the job she was elected to do. She refused and is there for in contempt. Or you feel that laws should not apply to those who feel that their religious beliefs doesn't agree with the law? In that case women can no longer be pastors, or speak out in the congregation, or get a divorce... because your good old book suggests it.
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SSG (Join to see) - I am a big fan of our laws. I do not care about her creed, religion or ethnicity. If you break the law - you suffer the penalties. I couldn't care if she was muslim, buddist, pagan or an atheist. It simply shouldn't matter in the eyes of the law.
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My opinion is you should not bring your religion to work with you. I respect everyone's decision of whatever religion that is your preference for your particular personal reasons. I never tried to influence or change any service members while I was on active duty, religion should be left at home and not brought to the work place.
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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SAME_SEX_MARRIAGE_JUDGE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-09-05-03-09-33
It seems a judge in Oregon is also refusing
It seems a judge in Oregon is also refusing
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