Killing the Jordanian pilot by burning him alive; has ISIS finally crossed the line? What should the US do?

I agree with you SGT (Join to see) hwever, I see one other alternative, and it is a long shot. Mr Personality Obama is all about image. If there is enough pressure and bad press for him from the rest of the world and his own party, he may be forced to do more. Although I expect it will be just enough to satisfy the critics.

Pardon my bad grammer and typing, but this really hits home and my brain really has a hard time processing a correct response.

I can relate SFC Collin McMillion We hear of the atrocities, but I guess after seeing this, it hit a major nerve.

Apparently the king has began executing ISIS and terrorist prisoners in Jordanian prison.

Won't stop there.

Have you watched the ISIS video? (the one they produced?) It is a fairly well produced propaganda film and they threw in some special effects and all and basically they burned him alive because well, it's in the Qu'ran.

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Qur'an (22:19-22) - "These twain (the believers and the disbelievers) are two opponents who contend concerning their Lord. But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads. Whereby that which is in their bellies, and their skins too, will be melted; And for them are hooked rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they would go forth from thence they are driven back therein and (it is said unto them): Taste the doom of burning."

The punishment of those who merely disbelieve in Muhammad's claims about himself is described as being horrifically brutal in many other places as well:

Qur'an (4:56) - "Indeed, those who disbelieve in Our verses - We will drive them into a Fire. Every time their skins are roasted through We will replace them with other skins so they may taste the punishment. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted in Might and Wise."

How Allah feels about non-Muslims naturally determines the attitude of devout Muslims. In the Qur'an, Muhammad explicitly uses Allah's hatred of unbelievers to motivate his people to Jihad:

Qur'an (9:73) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end."

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They show video of the pilot describing the attack, who was involved, where they came from and they interspersed image of flames and with pictures of the dead and then burned him alive. (An eye for an eye sort of thing). The actual burning starts at about 18:15 and it takes about a min. for the pilot to die. It's horrific and that's exactly the message of fear they are trying to send to those who oppose them. They are nothing but brutal savages and should be dealt with accordingly. At the end of the film, they show off their intelligence work with images of people they want dead (other pilots identified in the raid) and they list their names, ranks, addresses, facebook accounts, etc. and show aerial imagery of where they live. And they call on other muslims to kill them.

ISIS is showing that they aren't crazy, they're cold, calculating and mad. Mad as in abnormally furious; ferocious. These aren't people you are going to reason with, negotiate with, make treaties with, etc. They only respect strength and they only understand death. So if we're going to deal with them, it is going to have to be in a language they understand.

Maybe this is a rally cry sir. It seems Jordan has now got the stomach to go to war. some are even demanding they send ground troops in, not sure if they mean alone. However, maybe other Arab countries will see that just because they are Muslim, does not mean they are exempt from these terrorist cowards.

I think you're right. There is a multi-national force over there now with some Muslim countries helping in the fight but its been a token force. I'd like to see them fully committ which it looks like Jordan is about to do!

When that ideology has a country, or countries of operation, then yes, maybe it is time to commit. Comparing apples to oranges is not a good argument. As horrific as it was, the civil unrest you mention with the KKK in the fifties and sixties has ceased.

Another point of difference is, the speed in which news travels. I do not know where you get your information, but I do not see this as a war between Christianity and Islam. This is a war between civilized and uncivilized.

barbaric actions have occurred throughout history, and I am satisfied that they will continue to happen until the return of Jesus, or you die, depending on what your religious belief is.

The war on drugs can't be compared because it is more of a supply and demand war. As long as people want drugs, the cartels will continue supplying them. That kind of war is fought differently than terrorism.

So what line do they cross for you Corporal? do they have to step on our soil before you decide they need to be taken care of? They are already here!!! What will you say when they decide to drive up next to a school bus with school kids and blow themselves and the bus up? Is it still an ideology then that cannot be contended with by a force of arms.

I think you are deceiving yourself if you think we can't win.

You must definine winning in order for me to understand where you stand. Is winning totally obliterating radical Islam? If that is the case there has not been a war that has been one yet. Nazism still exists.

I will give you my definition of winning. It is standing up and saying your ideology is not going to succeed. It is saying that if you threaten this country or hurt it's citizens then you will pay the price. I agree with most of the responses on here, the line was crossed long ago, and the only thing our government has done was move the line. How long does that line have to be moved before they are going door to door here saying convert or die? That won't happen, but I don't really want them close enough to try, do you?

So you think think the answer would be another "Holy Crusade"? And to think I'm deceiving myself is a fools way of thinking. Trust me when I say there are threats that walk the streets of America everyday. They look like you and I. But that doesn't give me anymore right to start terrorizing them because of a profile they fit in my mind or someone else's.

What I've asked is a very simple question: how do you wage war on an ideology? I've yet to get an answer.

You say the burnings of the KKK have stopped…only because of the Civil Rights movements of the 60's. Had that not happened, who knows what might still be taking place. I will say this. Hate crimes are still happening in this country to this day. Is that not a form of terrorism? If you're not like the norm, them you'll be culled so you don't infect the rest of the populace is a terrorist mindset.

All I want everyone in this thread to see is that you can't call the kettle black when the pot is the exact same color. The bible tells us he who is without sin cast the first stone. Why are so many ready fight another war on foreign soil when there is one raging on the home front? In war there is no victor…there is only the vanquished…loss of life…feelings of resentment that lead to hatred toward the conquerors. Why do you think the world is always in a constant state of turmoil? Those that are vanquished fall back, regroup only to launch a counter offensive. It never ends. A warrior learns ways to fight to learn how NOT to. Violence is always the last alternative. Meet violence with violence and it begets more violence. Do you want any children your children's children to have to continue to fight in a war you fought in? I sure don't. Think about it young hero.

You've just said a mouthful. It's clear to me that you have wisdom beyond your years. It's also clear that you're a devoted Christian. Always follow your own mind. And Semper Fi.