Lobbyist groups are advocating lowering standards for female infantry

There is a reason for the high standard! wanna see woman die in combat roles, lower the standard!

This isn't about equality, it is the Marine corps taking the lives of those in combat serious. Training, hard training, saves lives.
Perhaps we should ask our enemies to lower their standards so we can lower our standards without putting anyone at a greater risk.

Lowering standards is part of the reason our beloved military is in the shape it is right now. When we needed the rush of troops for Iraq and Afghanistan we opened the floodgates and now it takes trekking through miles of red tape to get rid of the scumbags that are taking root in our ranks and choking the life out of the new recruits that want to serve honorably. That being said, despite the fact that I am in favor of opening more MOS's to allow females to serve, I am 100% against lowering or changing standards to suit them. When it comes down to crunch time, combat is combat is combat. Even though I am from a support MOS, I have had missions where I have gone out of my specialty and am expected to perform as well as my combat arms brothers, and I guarantee you that I will every time. And that is with a rebuilt foot courtesy of Uncle Sam. Now, if my non-combat arms self is required to train and meet certain standards in order to meet a specific mission set, why should less be expected of our female counterparts? I know that I can carry, drag, or somehow manage to move a fellow Soldier in the event he/she is wounded and unable to move on their own. I expect the same from whomever I am serving with. Lowering the standards for combat MOS's to allow more females to complete the courses would not be a positive move for the men and women that serve for the simple fact that our enemy will not lower their standards when attacking us. I've never witnessed, nor heard of for that matter, of an enemy that will take it easy on US forces for the simple fact that there are females present. So, all in all, if they want to join those specific military specialties, then do so knowing there are standards set in place for a specific reason and work to surpass them. For all in all, nothing in life is worth a damn if it is given to you as opposed to if you earn it.

I don't believe any Marine would think standards need to be lowered man or women. Our standards are what make us Marines and separate us from the rest of the services. Also why many countries try to emulate the Corps with their own version of Marines. We are not elite because we slack when things get tough. We are elite because we are pushed beyond our limits and secede. It is drilled in our being to adapt and overcome.

Interesting and lost in all the talk about these three women is the fact three men also where disqualified. I suppose if one of these men where gay then they would also be pushing the issue for lower standards for gay men.

Also the services have been scrambling to meet the January 2016 deadline that requires them to have incorporated women or come back with a reason – backed by research – why they were unable to accomplish that mission. Wouldn't failed the standards be research and reason enough.

If the goal is to just integrate women into combat roles so we look diversified and everyone has a feel good story. Then just put them in and to hell with everything.

But in my opinion the women who are trying their best to secede would feel let down by the system, if they modify standards for them. They would lose that feeling of accomplishment of proving they are good enough. They would always feel they have to watch their back and the feeling of not being excepted and ostrasized. Which will happen anyway because some men are asses.

But as I have stated in another post with a similar premise. Standards should not be purposely made to exclude women for the purpose of failure. If a women accomplishes the task and earns the MOS/AFSC more power to her and congratulations job well done.

SGT Suraj Dave I completely agree with you. One of the principle reasons that I have understood people to advocate for allowing women into combat roles in the first place (as well as other fields in the military, like submarines) is that they would advocate that if a woman can do the same job well, then she should be allowed to serve in that field. Okay, I can agree with that.

But, if a female is judged on a different standard, then that's actually where the inequality starts to happen. If a woman doesn't have to physically perform at a certain level, then why do men have to perform higher? The job doesn't care and can't tell the difference. So, if a *person* of either gender is considered fit for the billet with lower standards, then everyone ought to be able to graded on the same scale.

Obviously, I do not advocate lowering standards for combat roles or special programs. But it does smack of gender bias to allow women to serve in certain fields with only having met physical requirements that would have been substandard for a man to be in the same billet.

I believe that the standards were created to save lives in combat. These standards should be ones that protect this country and our service members as much as possible.

Well of course we should lower the standards for female Soldiers. We have lower standards for PT, so why wouldn't we lower the standards so they can 'pass' combat schools. Personally, I would like to see the same standards for PT before opening doors for historically non-female MOS's. But what do I know, I am just a lowly junior Soldier...

I'm most definitely against it because there should always be a standard! But I feel that they shouldn't be Infantry because of being on the Frontline! And as a Leader I always (ALWAYS) focused more attention to the well-being of my Privates! I couldn't phantom have an Infantry Woman on my left or right! No disrespect to Service Women! But our enemies treat Women POWs diabolical! Keeping it real! Hooah

brace for lawsuits from short people wanting to play basketball professionally, less attractive people who really think that they should have the chance to be a model, blind piolets, tone deaf singers, weak soldiers who can't shoot demanding to join Delta, intellectually challenged scientists and physicians.

Equal rights, whether it be for a job, a school, a financial loan, a career, doesn't merely denote the right to try for and successfully achieve a goal but the equal right to not make the grade, fail the test and not qualify.

THE STANDARDS SHOULD NEVER BE LOWERED! If anything, with the current caotic situation in the world and current real world threats. The standards must be increased or we will suffer much more lost of American lives!!!!!!!!.

Unless they are also going to extend those same reductions to everyone, we must adhere to a standard. And we must caution against changing the standard merely to allow for for diversity. This is an exaggerated application of this possibility but should we also lower the standards for men who are not strong enough, fast enough etc for admission to various jobs? We must determine accurate criteria for a combat job without cooking the data to meet a politically correct goal at the expense of the security of our Great Nation.