Posted on Jul 7, 2015
Local hero? A bit curious about that rack...
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Saw this in the local paper .. was thinking "Great .. some good vet press" and then I started looking at the rack. I don't have that much experience with WW2 / Korea ribbons, but does this look kosher? What's the ribbon with the 4 stars?
http://dcourier.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1086&ArticleID=147322
He was eager to serve his country.
At only 14 years old, Ron Johnson lied about his age and enlisted with the Navy to fight the Japanese.
The legal age to join the military back then was 17 or 16 with parental consent. It was not uncommon, however, for young men to fib their way in, especially with the amount of anger Americans had right after the attack on Pearl Harbor, according to Johnson.
"Some were caught and sent to Leavenworth (a United States Disciplinary Barracks in Kansas)," Johnson said.
Fortunately for Johnson, he got away with it.
"I think it was because I was in combat all of the time and I was serving a purpose in combat and they didn't want to find out that I was only 14 years old," Johnson said.
Part of the reason may have also been that he was raised as an orphan in a Catholic convent, so when he used a fake name (Ronny Frascona) when enlisting, his records weren't the easiest to trace.
Johnson served from February 1942 as a gunner and dive bomber until the end of the war in August 1945.
He and his pilot never had to eject from their plane, but they did crash into the ocean five times (three of which were due to running out of gas).
"At that time of the war, which was the beginning, we often went beyond the call of duty or the intelligence or our brains," Johnson said.
One instance that made a significant impression on Johnson was when he rode on top of his plane rather than in it during a rescue mission.
When he was on the USS North Carolina, a fighter pilot had been shot down in the Bay of Truk and needed rescuing because he was wounded and within range of Japanese fire.
Johnson's pilot, Mr. Mead, devised a plan that put Johnson in great danger. Johnson agreed nonetheless.
Mead landed in the bay just outside the range of fire. Johnson tied a long rope around his waist. Mead tied the other end to the strut of the pontoon and Johnson swam to the wounded pilot. Once he reached the pilot, Mead dragged them to safety.
There was also the matter of getting all of them back on the USS Carolina in one piece. The King Fisher pontoon had only enough room for two people, a gunner and a pilot. Mead had to fly and the wounded pilot took the gunner's seat.
"My question was ... where are you going to put me?" Johnson recalls asking Mead.
Mead responded: "You're going to straddle the strut and I'm going to tie your hands and feet around it and your back is going to be to the propeller," Johnson said.
"What if we don't get off the ground and we crash?" Johnson continued.
"He said, 'Well, then you're dead,'" Johnson said.
"I said [sarcastically], 'Thanks a lot sir, I really agree with your plan here.'"
It was risky, but they managed to get into the air and make it back to the USS North Carolina safely.
After the war, Johnson continued to serve in the Navy from 1945 to 1950 as a boxer. Out of his 116 fights, he lost only once as an amateur and once professionally.
In May 1950, he re-enlisted with the airborne to fight in the Korean War that began in June 1950. He spent three years there leading a platoon.
Despite all of the action he saw, Johnson was only wounded once. Shrapnel from an exploding suicide plane in Okinawa struck him. However, he recovered quickly.
"The injuries weren't debilitating at all," Johnson said.
Johnson, 83, now lives with his wife, Caroline, in Cordes Lakes.
He used to frequently volunteer for organizations in his area before he went blind three years ago. Yet even today, he still helps out the community as much as he can with his fellow wartime veterans in the American Legion Post 122.
http://dcourier.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1086&ArticleID=147322
He was eager to serve his country.
At only 14 years old, Ron Johnson lied about his age and enlisted with the Navy to fight the Japanese.
The legal age to join the military back then was 17 or 16 with parental consent. It was not uncommon, however, for young men to fib their way in, especially with the amount of anger Americans had right after the attack on Pearl Harbor, according to Johnson.
"Some were caught and sent to Leavenworth (a United States Disciplinary Barracks in Kansas)," Johnson said.
Fortunately for Johnson, he got away with it.
"I think it was because I was in combat all of the time and I was serving a purpose in combat and they didn't want to find out that I was only 14 years old," Johnson said.
Part of the reason may have also been that he was raised as an orphan in a Catholic convent, so when he used a fake name (Ronny Frascona) when enlisting, his records weren't the easiest to trace.
Johnson served from February 1942 as a gunner and dive bomber until the end of the war in August 1945.
He and his pilot never had to eject from their plane, but they did crash into the ocean five times (three of which were due to running out of gas).
"At that time of the war, which was the beginning, we often went beyond the call of duty or the intelligence or our brains," Johnson said.
One instance that made a significant impression on Johnson was when he rode on top of his plane rather than in it during a rescue mission.
When he was on the USS North Carolina, a fighter pilot had been shot down in the Bay of Truk and needed rescuing because he was wounded and within range of Japanese fire.
Johnson's pilot, Mr. Mead, devised a plan that put Johnson in great danger. Johnson agreed nonetheless.
Mead landed in the bay just outside the range of fire. Johnson tied a long rope around his waist. Mead tied the other end to the strut of the pontoon and Johnson swam to the wounded pilot. Once he reached the pilot, Mead dragged them to safety.
There was also the matter of getting all of them back on the USS Carolina in one piece. The King Fisher pontoon had only enough room for two people, a gunner and a pilot. Mead had to fly and the wounded pilot took the gunner's seat.
"My question was ... where are you going to put me?" Johnson recalls asking Mead.
Mead responded: "You're going to straddle the strut and I'm going to tie your hands and feet around it and your back is going to be to the propeller," Johnson said.
"What if we don't get off the ground and we crash?" Johnson continued.
"He said, 'Well, then you're dead,'" Johnson said.
"I said [sarcastically], 'Thanks a lot sir, I really agree with your plan here.'"
It was risky, but they managed to get into the air and make it back to the USS North Carolina safely.
After the war, Johnson continued to serve in the Navy from 1945 to 1950 as a boxer. Out of his 116 fights, he lost only once as an amateur and once professionally.
In May 1950, he re-enlisted with the airborne to fight in the Korean War that began in June 1950. He spent three years there leading a platoon.
Despite all of the action he saw, Johnson was only wounded once. Shrapnel from an exploding suicide plane in Okinawa struck him. However, he recovered quickly.
"The injuries weren't debilitating at all," Johnson said.
Johnson, 83, now lives with his wife, Caroline, in Cordes Lakes.
He used to frequently volunteer for organizations in his area before he went blind three years ago. Yet even today, he still helps out the community as much as he can with his fellow wartime veterans in the American Legion Post 122.
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Why are we trying to tear this guy apart?
He's 88 years old.....he told a wild ass story to a newspaper guy…..which btw I’d be more interested in having validated than his ribbon rack…..it's a great story….i’m sure it has the embellishments that come with time and a million telling but man how great would it be to find out that it happen as he said…tied to a plane…..awesome.
Is he trying to defraud the government or something....am I missing something?
Getting sick of every time an old guy has his picture taken with military stuff on it people go on the attack and try to prove something wrong…..makes me never want to wear my ribbons or uniform again….I mean God forbid if 50 plus year after I got out I put one on backwards, bought one that looks close to what I remember, or can’t find a discontinued uniform items so I go with my next best guess, or my memory fails and I say the wrong unit number or can’t remember it.
Our core values were true back then as they are today...Integrity first.......why can we not just be happy that a prior military guy is getting recognized and assume that he has integrity until he gives us a reason to doubt it.
Hell I don’t even want to post pictures of my Dad in uniform outside of the family (and I know he was in I went to his retirement ceremony) for the same reason….I don’t want someone trying to tear his uniform apart and disgrace his name for no reason.
Don’t get me wrong I know there are imposters out there…..but unless someone is trying to get personal gain, disability, etc….we don’t need to treat ever old veteran like a lying scumbag…….there has got to be better things a collective of people such as us can apply our “super powers” to that will make a difference in the world.
He's 88 years old.....he told a wild ass story to a newspaper guy…..which btw I’d be more interested in having validated than his ribbon rack…..it's a great story….i’m sure it has the embellishments that come with time and a million telling but man how great would it be to find out that it happen as he said…tied to a plane…..awesome.
Is he trying to defraud the government or something....am I missing something?
Getting sick of every time an old guy has his picture taken with military stuff on it people go on the attack and try to prove something wrong…..makes me never want to wear my ribbons or uniform again….I mean God forbid if 50 plus year after I got out I put one on backwards, bought one that looks close to what I remember, or can’t find a discontinued uniform items so I go with my next best guess, or my memory fails and I say the wrong unit number or can’t remember it.
Our core values were true back then as they are today...Integrity first.......why can we not just be happy that a prior military guy is getting recognized and assume that he has integrity until he gives us a reason to doubt it.
Hell I don’t even want to post pictures of my Dad in uniform outside of the family (and I know he was in I went to his retirement ceremony) for the same reason….I don’t want someone trying to tear his uniform apart and disgrace his name for no reason.
Don’t get me wrong I know there are imposters out there…..but unless someone is trying to get personal gain, disability, etc….we don’t need to treat ever old veteran like a lying scumbag…….there has got to be better things a collective of people such as us can apply our “super powers” to that will make a difference in the world.
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My sentiments exactly, MSgt and SSgt. I've been a VFW and AL post commander in which the overwhelming majority of members are/were from WWII and Korea. Most of the members of the funeral Honor Guards, in my posts and countless others I've been around over the years, are these same aged old men. In the firing position, those heavy M1 Garands are held at every angle BUT up. I smile with pride to see them, time after time, parade out there in all kinds of weather to honor a deceased veteran. I use to be the young guy, one of the vets from Nam. Now, that is hardly the case anymore. But the new vets aren't joining the VFW and the AL like the vets from other wars. So, posts everywhere are dying, and the few remaining WWII and Korea vets, like this man, are still performing most of the visible duties of these dwindling posts. This discussion hadn't been up for ten minutes, and I knew it was the Asiatic Pacific Campaign Ribbon. I kept quiet until now because, in my mind's eye, I was seeing the thousands of old warriors, many of whom are now gone, who have borne the Colors and shouldered the rifles to too many graveside services. As one other commenter observed, "I'm forty years younger than this guy, and I'd be lucky if half my stuff wasn't pinned to my shirt upside down and all out of order!!!" (or words to that effect) I salute this old Veteran in the picture. He has surely borne his share of the fight for our freedoms.
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LTC Paul Labrador
I took it as more that folks are not familiar with the WW2 and Korean era awards. His rack is totally congruent with his stated service, once you actually give it a good look (and the photo was bad).
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Another thing RP people are forgetting is that this is his AMERICAN LEGION uniform. That's why he has a mishmash of pins and patches everywhere. The gold aquilette is an Honor Guard or Color Guard designation in his post.
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LTC Paul Labrador - Sir my point is why are even giving it a "good look"....this old war dog is not in a pass and review or inspection.. He's not trying to get anything, he's just trying to continue service to his brothers and sisters in arms we should be thanking him.....not treating him like a subordinate in their dress uniform for the first time.....Perhaps if the original had read "Hey can someone tell me what this ribbon is I don't recognize it?" instead of "I'm a bit curious about that rack" I would be more inclined to agree with you. Anyway I concur I could be over reacting and apologize if i am.
He's a WWII and Korean Vet, I think that the ribbon with the 4 stars may be the asiatic Pacific Campaign but can't see it well. He has been both a marine or navy as well as Army. He's wearing the China Service Ribbon, pre WWII.
It looks legit and I can tell you that if he is NA they don't cotton to posers!
It looks legit and I can tell you that if he is NA they don't cotton to posers!
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SSG Robert Webster
The China Service Medal is also a post WWII award and service in theatre during WWII can be used for qualifying service.
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I do not see a good conduct medal, but hey a lot of people served and never received one. If this guy is old enough to have served in China he would have to be about 92 and at that age I give him credit for remembering his own name. Hell I have to take out my driver's license when someone asks me my name.
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SPC Americo Garcia
In our Honor Guard we have a few 70+ guys cause no young people want to join the VFW, AL, DAV, or the All Veterans council of Tom Green County. Yet never heard them complain about having to be there on short notice to see a fellow veteran off to the resting place. It is done out of pride and respect for our fellow men and women who have served. RAH!
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LCpl Steven Humphrey
alot of people back in that day that had alot of rack space also got in alot of trouble. look at Chesty Puller for example.
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Cpl Brett Wagner
PFC Steven Humphrey - General Puller got in trouble? I'm just saying if you served in China at the age of 16 (which some did) you would be 92 now.
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