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A while back I started a post about loss of discipline in the Army. I ran across this "blog" where the author (unknown or I don't know where to find it) brings up some interesting points about Army Leadership and if we have lost it. Fairly quick read....so I ask, what do you think?
I would say there is some merit to what he / she writes about PT / HT & WT failures being a leadership failure, but I also think there is a personal responsibility for maintaining ourselves. The same goes with MOS proficiency and basic Soldier (Marines, Airman, Sailor) skills. However, there does need to be a system of checks and balances for failure to perform in regulatory manners. Although we may not agree with parts or all of our service regulations, they are the regulations that guide our service. So, if you have worked with your particular SM and they cannot pass a PT test, cannot perform in their MOS, or conduct themselves in a manner that is required in our regulations, does that mean we failed them as leaders. I would say for the most part, no.
Thoughts???
https://combatcavscout.wordpress.com/2014/11/20/a-failure-of-leadership/
I would say there is some merit to what he / she writes about PT / HT & WT failures being a leadership failure, but I also think there is a personal responsibility for maintaining ourselves. The same goes with MOS proficiency and basic Soldier (Marines, Airman, Sailor) skills. However, there does need to be a system of checks and balances for failure to perform in regulatory manners. Although we may not agree with parts or all of our service regulations, they are the regulations that guide our service. So, if you have worked with your particular SM and they cannot pass a PT test, cannot perform in their MOS, or conduct themselves in a manner that is required in our regulations, does that mean we failed them as leaders. I would say for the most part, no.
Thoughts???
https://combatcavscout.wordpress.com/2014/11/20/a-failure-of-leadership/
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Military Leadership has been lost, because, the leadership currently in place, was never taught to lead. They are more worried about hurting someones feelings instead of leading. The military needs leaders, needs people that are not going to be worried about being a nice guy, or their platoons buddy, they need men, and women that will get the job done, even if it means stepping on toes to get it done. We need Patton's, Bradley's, Ridgeway's, Schwartzkaupfs, Powell's, Nimitiz's, Halsey's, Burke's, Puller's and Mattis's. We need leaders who are not worried about their OER or NCOER, people who take care of their personnel and kick ass to get the mission done. I'm sure some current officers here would disagree; I have been told by a Colonel on here, that there is no room for those people I mentioned in today's military. I beg to differ, I think they are the shot in the arm today's military needs.
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GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad
I agree and will take it a step further ... officers need to get back to leading by example and that includes full accountability for their actions. Way too often anymore we are seeing high-profile cases of officers getting minimal punishment for serious offenses. This sends the wrong message ...
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I found the article/blog a very interesting read of the priorities of leadership in today's military. this is something I believe is an issue across all branches and not just an "Army" issue. After many of the changes the Navy has been undergoing lately, these were some of the very concerns that our leadership had as well. I would be interested in hearing the opinions of some fellow Army leadership on this.
SSG James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4" SSG (Join to see) LTC (Join to see) CPT Chris Loomis SFC (Join to see) BG David Fleming III SGM Gregory Tarancon IV SFC Jessie Venable CW5 Jim Steddum CPT (Join to see) SFC (Join to see) LTC (Join to see) SFC Michael Hasbun CPT L S MAJ (Join to see) MSG(P) Rafael Aguilera MSG (Join to see) LTC (Join to see) SFC (Join to see)
SSG James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4" SSG (Join to see) LTC (Join to see) CPT Chris Loomis SFC (Join to see) BG David Fleming III SGM Gregory Tarancon IV SFC Jessie Venable CW5 Jim Steddum CPT (Join to see) SFC (Join to see) LTC (Join to see) SFC Michael Hasbun CPT L S MAJ (Join to see) MSG(P) Rafael Aguilera MSG (Join to see) LTC (Join to see) SFC (Join to see)
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SSG James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4" I do feel like it is the individual's responsibility to take charge of their career and life, but it is also the command's responsibility to make sure the individual has the tools to accomplish that. If a member is clearly exceeding in a certain environment (like the Private First Class(?)) but is struggling when being put back into a regime that is not working for them, how is this not considered? If we give our people the tools for success, in majority of cases they will rise to the challenge.
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LTC (Join to see)
Definitely not just an Army issue, but an over arching issue in the military. There needs to be a balance like you said about taking charge of a career.
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I agree with you, LTC (Join to see). If leaders do their level best to mentor subordinates, spend extra time trying to get their troops up to standards, and one or more still can't make it ... Well, that's when it's time for those standards to kick in and "take over." If necessary, not meeting the standards could lead to discharge from the military.
Assuming leaders have done all they can do, I don't see that as a failure of leadership at all. I see that as a failure of the Soldier to meet the standards. Unfortunately, that sometimes happens.
(PS: I do like what the author of that blog post says about servant leadership. That's what I mean when I say that leaders have done all they can to help a Soldier meet the standards. They are serving him/her, but ultimately it's up to the Soldier to meet the standards.)
Assuming leaders have done all they can do, I don't see that as a failure of leadership at all. I see that as a failure of the Soldier to meet the standards. Unfortunately, that sometimes happens.
(PS: I do like what the author of that blog post says about servant leadership. That's what I mean when I say that leaders have done all they can to help a Soldier meet the standards. They are serving him/her, but ultimately it's up to the Soldier to meet the standards.)
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