Posted on Oct 17, 2015
Master Infantry Badge, is there a place for it in today's Army?
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My unit will be conducting a EIB in March and I recently seen an article about a possible MIB (master infantry badge) I like the idea, because both cib and EIB are in the same class, also for efmb and cmb for the medical field. What are your thoughts?
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Easier to simply place the CIB and EIB in different classes, than create yet another badge...
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I think there should be something - when I was in, most of my platoon mates earned their CIBs so there was a very low push, or need felt, to earn an EIB. Hardly anyone had one, and I actually never had the option to get an EIB in my entire 5+ years, if you can believe it!
I agree with some of these commenters about the name MASTER IB potentially being too encompassing (ex: I could call for fire of course, but could've barely worked my way around actually firing a mortar); So, if at least basic knowledge of every skill, of every infantry discipline, isn't a prerequisite, then I would look at the name, but on the surface I like the idea!
I agree with some of these commenters about the name MASTER IB potentially being too encompassing (ex: I could call for fire of course, but could've barely worked my way around actually firing a mortar); So, if at least basic knowledge of every skill, of every infantry discipline, isn't a prerequisite, then I would look at the name, but on the surface I like the idea!
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The last thing the Army needs is another meaningless, superfluous qualification badge . I thought the Instructor badge was BS but this would beat that on the waste-of-time and resources meter.
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SFC Jason Boyd covered this pretty well! I myself was awarded a CIB in an action where our vehicle was fired upon and our one of our patrol vehicles' gunners fired back. I do consider though that when I was in an RPG attack that took a chunk of one of my feet the actual event for which I earned my CIB, as well as a Purple Heart.
I feel the EIB should be awarded to those who can demonstrate the required skills and meet the qualifications. I don't like any badge protecting that is known to go on. I wish I had earned my EIB while I was in. In contravention of the regs, had I earned both, I would have worn the EIB on the ACU's due to the fact that the CIB had been awarded as if it were Halloween candy to be handed out. The CIB being considered the "higher award," is supposed to be worn if awarded to an individual.
Keep in mind... the EIB can be awarded to non-Infantry personnel, but is not to be worn on any uniform.
Caveat: If anyone can dispute or correct anything I've put out here, I welcome constructive criticism.
I feel the EIB should be awarded to those who can demonstrate the required skills and meet the qualifications. I don't like any badge protecting that is known to go on. I wish I had earned my EIB while I was in. In contravention of the regs, had I earned both, I would have worn the EIB on the ACU's due to the fact that the CIB had been awarded as if it were Halloween candy to be handed out. The CIB being considered the "higher award," is supposed to be worn if awarded to an individual.
Keep in mind... the EIB can be awarded to non-Infantry personnel, but is not to be worn on any uniform.
Caveat: If anyone can dispute or correct anything I've put out here, I welcome constructive criticism.
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1SG(P) Dean Mcbride (MPER) (SPHR)
Established in 1943 during World War II, the EIB was developed to recognize exemplary infantrymen, and became an ongoing program for soldiers to participate in. In 2019, the U.S. Army extended this opportunity to non-infantry soldiers by developing the ESB, which follows the same events held for the EIB. The ESB demonstrates individual Soldier competencies and abilities to perform Skill level I Warrior Task and brigade commander-selected tasks: Training and testing are expected to be tough, realistic, and mission focused. All who meet the standards will be awarded the Expert Soldier Badge. All Soldiers, NCOs, Officers, and Warrant Officers in will be eligible to compete for the ESB except those in the Infantry, Special Forcesw and medical career management fields (CMFs II, I8 or 68). Award is similar to Combat Action Badge without the Wreath.
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SGT Szczakowski,
I like the Idea of the MIB badge as well. At one time, the Army was thinking about have the CIB (Combat Infantryman's Badge) to represent the Soldiers that had both their EIB and CIB like myself. Don't know what happend to that, oh yeah they thought it would be great to make a master Astronaut badge and Instructor Badges; instead of following though with the Original plan. Below is what the plan would have looked like.
I like the Idea of the MIB badge as well. At one time, the Army was thinking about have the CIB (Combat Infantryman's Badge) to represent the Soldiers that had both their EIB and CIB like myself. Don't know what happend to that, oh yeah they thought it would be great to make a master Astronaut badge and Instructor Badges; instead of following though with the Original plan. Below is what the plan would have looked like.
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