Posted on May 29, 2015
Mohammad cartoon contest in front of a Phoenix Mosque. What are your thoughts?
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It is stupid and disrespectful to both the mosque worshipers and to the rest of us. The mosque worshipers have been caught in the middle of cowards that use the excuse of religion and poor thinking people that can not see the difference. Jon Ritzheimer is in the same category as the Westboro Baptist Church (WBC) is an unaffiliated Baptist church known for its hate speech, especially against LGBT people (homophobia), Jews, etc.
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CPT Pedro Meza
Ei. please call me Pedro (team habit), I learned after experiencing death that Jesus lessons need to be practiced and not worshiped.
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IMHO as many have stated this contest is in poor taste. It is ALSO an act of free speech. If as SFC Fiszel mentioned there was a KKK protest in a Black neighborhood that would also be free speech and in poor taste. But neither Islamic or Black people would be justified in using violence against the people attending any such event. We have taken an oath to support and defend free speech and everything else in the constitution. But that does not give us the right to decide what free speech is ok and what is not.
I do not agree with the holding of this contest. But I support ,and if called on would defend their right to hold it.
I do not agree with the holding of this contest. But I support ,and if called on would defend their right to hold it.
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SFC Matthew Parker
SGT Oakes,
After reading a large number of posts on this thread I found yours on target, respectful and I hope educational.
This isn't about sharia law, terrorists, jihad or the take over of America. This is simple, the event is in poor taste and offensive to those Americans who practice their Muslim faith.
Its in poor taste, period. I think events like this continue to divide us. I just hope it rains all day and a flood washes these fools away. If not, let em draw what they want and ignore them.
After reading a large number of posts on this thread I found yours on target, respectful and I hope educational.
This isn't about sharia law, terrorists, jihad or the take over of America. This is simple, the event is in poor taste and offensive to those Americans who practice their Muslim faith.
Its in poor taste, period. I think events like this continue to divide us. I just hope it rains all day and a flood washes these fools away. If not, let em draw what they want and ignore them.
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Although I personally think that the event itself is pretty dumb, I fully support their right to express themselves free from fear. I also fully support their right to self defense should an incident arise. What makes us different from other countries is that we can express ourselves freely and under no circumstances should we cower before those who wish us harm for it. Violence because one gets offended is NEVER permissible. It is not the event organizers or participants that cause violence, it is evil people who want to impose their will on others that do.
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LCpl Mark Lefler
This isn't' about rights. The 1st amendment only covers reprise from the government. This is about anti Muslims finding a away to express their hatred publicly. This is like children on the play ground.
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It IS inflammatory, but it's also Free Speech. Our First Amendment is not in place to protect speech that everyone agrees on. It IS in place to protect speech that is inflammatory, that is critical of government, or others, that may offend others. What they're doing is not the tack I'd take, but it is their right to utilize their First Amendment Rights. Whatever they say, is not as inflammatory as any violence that could result from their words or drawings.
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SSG (Join to see)
I agree free speech is a right that must be protected, however there is no reason we can't also condemn the speech we protect out of principle.
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SSG Gerhard S.
Indeed, SSG Mark Colwell, we do not have to agree with disagreeable speech, but we do have to respect the right of others to be disagreeable.
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1st of our constitutional rights. I saw a guy that had a shirt that said "Jesus is a cunt" I wanted to pound him into oblivion but realized he has a right to wear it even though it tore at my soul; I served so he could say and present whatever he wanted.
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The Supreme Court has already ruled on this. As offensive as it may seem, it is protected speech. The Westboro "Baptists" and their foul, vile, insensitive signs are allowed at funerals. The KKK is allowed to spew their garbage too... So while it may be offensive, it is protected by the 1st amendment. I don't think doing it at a mosque is a very good idea. But I fully support their rights to criticize an ideology.
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Terrorism succeeds only when it causes you to change your behavior to appease the terrorists. Too many in the world today either have forgotten this, don't understand it, or are just plain cowards. I'm not surprised that this rally is taking place in Arizona, a state populated by a lot of people who are about as non-PC as you can get and still know what liberty is as evidenced by the friendliest gun rights in the country. I wish I still lived there; as I too would be attending this rally...armed to the teeth.
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if we allow the nazis the westboros and any other group to peacefully have a demonstration then what is the difference here........none
now if all theses artists show up with guns(gonna assume they all have concealed carry) then they are perfectly in there rights.
we all have the right to peacefully demonstrate.
Now, do i believe that this whole thing is stupid, a big ole fat yes.
now if all theses artists show up with guns(gonna assume they all have concealed carry) then they are perfectly in there rights.
we all have the right to peacefully demonstrate.
Now, do i believe that this whole thing is stupid, a big ole fat yes.
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"The First Amendment to the United States Constitution prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances."
The moment we give into their demands and tiptoe around their delicate sensibilities is the moment we decide they are in charge.
Personally, I couldn't come up with a single shit to give about which cartoon character drawn is found offensive by any group. That sounds like an argument between elementary school children. These people want to behead other people for this?? Hmm.... Sanity check please.
If someone CHOOSES to get upset because they are offended by a cartoon drawing because they were born into a belief system and brainwashed to go full-retard, their response behavior remains their personal choice. Good luck with your defense in court, or... in Texas.
The moment we give into their demands and tiptoe around their delicate sensibilities is the moment we decide they are in charge.
Personally, I couldn't come up with a single shit to give about which cartoon character drawn is found offensive by any group. That sounds like an argument between elementary school children. These people want to behead other people for this?? Hmm.... Sanity check please.
If someone CHOOSES to get upset because they are offended by a cartoon drawing because they were born into a belief system and brainwashed to go full-retard, their response behavior remains their personal choice. Good luck with your defense in court, or... in Texas.
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