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I've thought about going through a program with the Navy to become a Naval officer specializing in physical therapy but I just don't think I'd enjoy the Navy as much as the Marine Corps. Can anyone explain to me that process? And to those who have served in the Marine Corps and the Navy, can you explain the transition and which branch you preferred more? I definitely enjoy being in the Marine Corps so I really want to enjoy the Navy as much if I were to go that route
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PO2 Jonathan Scharff
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Well since most people are commenting on the branch aspects of a change let me focus on the career change options. I am speaking as an owner of a physical therapy practice. DPT programs in the civilian world are highly competitive! Most of the time you need a 3.7 or higher to be looked at in your undergrad program. Do you already have a science based undergrad degree? If you don't and the Navy is actually considering sending you to 8 years of schooling to get your doctorate of physical therapy and you have a desire to help people and work in this field then you should leap at the chance. I know a lot of young men and women who have not been accepted into DPT programs after four strenuous and successful undergrad years! I can't stress enough how few of these programs exist and how in demand PT's are. Also this degree translates wonderfully into the civilian world. If you have any questions about the field just PM me and I can give you my cell number and I will try to answer any questions that I can. Good luck Marine and thank you for your service!
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Thank you so much! That definitely helps! I'm in Okinawa right now so if you don't have a smart phone then this is likely the best way to talk to one another. But I definitely have a few more questions for you but chows over so I'll message you later sir. Thank you again
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I effected an inter-service transfer from the Army to the Navy. I was a chaplain and called the Chief of Chaplains office first. After speaking with the Chaplain in charge of this program in the Army, I put my request packet together. I had to get a full physical as well. It went through the Army's chain of command rather quickly. The Under Secretary of the Army for Manpower and Reserve approved my request in about 3 months. Then the Navy took longer. But they approved it as well. I was in Germany at the time. I coordinated my transition with the Navy folks at the Chaplain School which was then in Newport, RI. They gave me a few days to see my family in Florida. I then went to Newport and completed the Navy's Chaplain Officer Basic Course. All in all, it was a smooth transition with no lost time in service, i.e. one day I was discharged from the Army. The next day I was on active duty in the Navy. I hope this helps some.
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Now, Chaplain Schwab, you can serve with the Navy OR the Marine Corps. I served with both as a Medical Service Corps. It's a great experience. Congratulations and may be be successful int the Navy Chaplain Corps.
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LCDR (Join to see) I did serve with both. I even did a tour with the Coast Guard!
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The Navy unlike the Marine Corps praise rank a lot more than the Marine. Unlike the Marines where leadership is taught at a low rank, most sailor will never be in a leadership position unless they are at least E7 while a small minority of the E6 having the privilege to serve as LPO (Leading Petty Officer) the same as an NCOIC will actually be in a position of power. As an officer you probably will never dine with enlisted because they have their own mess in O-country (officer country) onboard a ship, the same as the chief mess (E7-E9).

As an officer on a ship, you don't do anything such as clean even your own mess. Your stateroom (place where you sleep) usually a 2 man room for O3 and above, it is pretty much service for you by the E1-E4 just like room service in a hotel. Your sink is clean, your floor vacuum, your bed made. Your laundry is washed and press for you as well. Your meals are served by the E-1-E4; you find a seat in the mess, snap your fingers a couple of time and an E-1-E4 would come to you and you tell him/her what you want and they will bring your food to you. Once you are done, snap your fingers a couple of time and they come pick up your plate. If you're thirsty, you snap your finger and they bring you whatever beverages you want.

There are two brow on a Carrier and only one brow on every other ship. The officer usually leaves before the enlisted for liberty and there are less of a hassle because there isn't a couple of hundred E1-E6 sailor trying to leave at the same time which could take hours if you pull into a foreign port. The parking on a Navy yard/base is arrange for higher rank, with E7 and above parking right next to the ship whereas the E1-E6 park miles away and have to walk to the ship.

The two service is pretty much the same with identical terminology you learn in bootcamp. The only thing different is leadership. Just as I mention, you will never see an E4 in a leadership position, they're just overpaid E3s. E5/E6 are not like the Sgt and SSGT in the Marines. Unlike in the Marines an E5 has tremendous power, in the Navy they're nothing but highly overpaid E3. As for E6, if you're not an LPO, you're an extremely overpaid E3.

Overall, you would enjoy being in the Navy as an officer because you don't have to put up with all the BS that the enlisted has to go through. You don't have to worry about GQ (General Quarters) a weekly drill that test the response of the ship's ability to fight fire or damage. During GQ, everyone has to be up, except for the officers who is not participating whereas every enlisted has no choice. The worst are the 2am drill.
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Cpl Tou Lee Yang
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Personally, on a ship especially a Cruiser or a Destroyer, the crew is pretty tight. That's not to say they would look out for one another. The atmosphere is more like "what can you do for me" type deal. You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. If a sailor is not part of your command, chances are you will be reported.

The Navy was fun to me after I left the Marines. I do say the camaraderie and cohesion is much better in the Marine Corps than it is in the Navy. Probably because the Marine Corps is a warfighting branch where your chances of seeing combat is inevitable unlike the Navy where you press buttons for the Tomahawk missiles to be fired.

I rather do a 6 month deployment than go out to the field for 3 weeks, at least that's my personal preference. At least I get 3 hot meals and a hot shower (sometimes cold), unlike going out to the field where getting a meal is a possibility and a hot meal is more than unlikely. As well as getting a hot shower instead of using your canteen as a shower.

The Navy is big on deployments depending on the ship. You may have only a few months turn around before you have to go back out to sea. If you decide to join the Navy, just make sure you never get station on any ship in Japan or Hawaii, you probably be home 3 months out of the year if you're lucky.
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Cpl Tou Lee Yang obviously you have a perspective on the Navy that I don't share. Petty Officers are called that because they are NCOs just like SGTs. It is true that in the Advanced Technical Fields, people arrive on ship as E4/E5 already. There is a reason for that. BUT- - in the non ATF fields, for instance a BM3, there are leadership roles that they are placed in. In the traditional Navy, before the ATF, all PO3's were leaders.

As to the snap your fingers for service in the Wardroom - I was an Enlisted man and I was an Officer. I served in the Wardroom on six ships, and I never once saw an officer snap fingers for service. Quite frankly, it's kind of like a restaurant; if you piss off the server, you have no idea what will end up on your plate.

And as to Stateroom service, it's much different now than it was when I was at sea. The FSAs do much less cleaning now except for senior officers...
SCPO Joshua I
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Cpl. Yang likes to pontificate, but has no idea what life in the Navy is like. I'm convinced he served in some other country's Navy, as most of what he writes has nothing to do with the Navy I've served in for two decades.
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Rabbi, what part of my perspective do you not witness? Apparently being an O4 in the Navy especially on a Naval vessel has it's perk. You basically don't do crap except show up for work. And we both know officer treats enlisted like servants otherwise I don't even understand why a grown man could not possibly go get his own food instead of having it served to him by a lower rank. It's not quite slavery because those E1-E4 are actually given a short time off...like a few hours before they have to be there and do everything over again for another 14-18 hours. I'm sure you don't know how long they work because you're in your stateroom chilling like a villain.

Joshua, being in the Navy for over 2 decades and you don't see it? Have you gotten blind while you were in? If anything it is you and Rabbi that are delusional to how the Navy is. I'm sure as a high ranking individual it is so much better because you don't need to put up with so much crap that the officers and chief seems to put out everyday. It doesn't seem to amazed me, even having a chief go home and call us at work telling us we can go home. Now tell me that's not f$#@ up. And the amusing thing is, he can do that without any consequences.

Well, obvious to your comment, since I'm Asian, I've must've served in the Chinese Navy. Of course an idiotic comment like yours would suggest that either I served in a foreign navy or that I am wrong because after all a chief is always correct. But not in this case buddy boy, you're an idiot who tries to circumvent exactly how the Navy is. The long hours and the deployment is part of the military. However, treating the people lower than you almost slave like is beyond what a military is supposed to be. Being both in the Marines and the Navy. I can surely tell you the Navy only exist to advocate servitude.
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As a career Navy man (first as a Hospital Corpsman, and later as a Medical Service Corps Officer), I spent a few years with the Marine Corps in different situations. My officer assignment detailer was always willing to work with me on orders to new assignments. I had no particular preferences as Navy/Marine Corps assignments. However I knew others who did and these officers spent the majority of their careers with the Marines. Physical Therapists are commissioned in the Navy Medical Service Corps and are generally assigned to Hospitals. Several of these are co-located with Marine Corps facilties.
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I don't know if you're still looking for answers or not. I'm new to this website but I was an FMF Corpsman who was accepted to the Army/Baylor PT Program back in 1999. It's a great program, you're paid as an O1-E to get an education. It's a Joint program but the Army owns it and accepts the most people. At the end of the day, it's a living. You'll work with some of the greatest and some of the not-so greatest people you've ever met and not have to worry about what to wear to work. I will say hands down the Army has more opportunity for officers to work outside of just regular PT. I've worked in TRADOC and helped influence policy; I currently work as an IG and help shape DA policy. I've had a lot of opportunities that the Navy couldn't offer.

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