Posted on Dec 8, 2014
Murica? Do you think that it is right for College Students to say Pledge Against the USA?
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I have said it all along but this is just part of a populace that is growing and that is anti-USA. I think it is time for us to put a reality hat and stop with the partisan shenanigans of a small portion of this society. Here below is the utter non-sense:
"If you sign up for Denver college professor Charles Angeletti's American Civilization class, be forewarned that you're going to have to recite his invective-filled 'New Pledge' -- and according to some of his students, also be ready to swallow a big helping of his politics.
Angeletti, who teaches at Metropolitan State University of Denver, has students learn an anti-American spoof of the Pledge of Allegiance that denounces the U.S. as a Republican-controlled bastion of injustice, all while spewing his own far-left brand of politics, according to current and former students.
“I pledge allegiance to and wrap myself in the flag of the United States Against Anything Un-American,” reads Angeletti's version. “And to the Republicans for which it stands, two nations, under Jesus, rich against poor, with curtailed liberty and justice for all except blacks, homosexuals, women who want abortions, Communists, welfare queens, treehuggers, feminazis, illegal immigrants, children of illegal immigrants, and you, if you don't watch your step.”
“We’re very racist, we’re very repressive, we’re very Christian oriented, we don’t tolerate other kinds of thinking in this country.”
- Charles Angeletti, professor at Metropolitan State University
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/08/college-prof-makes-students-recite-anti-american-pledge-allegiance/
What are your views other than it was Fox News? Are you really for America and this? Leave your voting cards at home...
"If you sign up for Denver college professor Charles Angeletti's American Civilization class, be forewarned that you're going to have to recite his invective-filled 'New Pledge' -- and according to some of his students, also be ready to swallow a big helping of his politics.
Angeletti, who teaches at Metropolitan State University of Denver, has students learn an anti-American spoof of the Pledge of Allegiance that denounces the U.S. as a Republican-controlled bastion of injustice, all while spewing his own far-left brand of politics, according to current and former students.
“I pledge allegiance to and wrap myself in the flag of the United States Against Anything Un-American,” reads Angeletti's version. “And to the Republicans for which it stands, two nations, under Jesus, rich against poor, with curtailed liberty and justice for all except blacks, homosexuals, women who want abortions, Communists, welfare queens, treehuggers, feminazis, illegal immigrants, children of illegal immigrants, and you, if you don't watch your step.”
“We’re very racist, we’re very repressive, we’re very Christian oriented, we don’t tolerate other kinds of thinking in this country.”
- Charles Angeletti, professor at Metropolitan State University
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/08/college-prof-makes-students-recite-anti-american-pledge-allegiance/
What are your views other than it was Fox News? Are you really for America and this? Leave your voting cards at home...
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That's the beauty of our Constitution and democracy. We who serve and have served, fight for the freedoms that this P.O.S. is taking advantage of. Because we do so we can have this forum to tell the world that he is an imbecile. If you really want to deter these types of people use the power of the pen, the press, and the right to vote against those who support his views and hired him, thereby providing him a platform from which to speak his drivel. We don't need to take military action or use force to reduce him to nothing, he already is a nothing who is too stupid to realize that what little he is,
and all he can ever hope to become is beholden to those who gave all for his freedom.
and all he can ever hope to become is beholden to those who gave all for his freedom.
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Our service protects this man's right to speak his mind. Now considering that Metro State University is a state subsidized school and he's requiring students to recite his words I
Would argure that him forcing students to recite his athiest beliefs is a just as much of a violation of separation of church & state as is requiring students to recite Christian passages.
Would argure that him forcing students to recite his athiest beliefs is a just as much of a violation of separation of church & state as is requiring students to recite Christian passages.
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SGT Charles Vernier
Since the Age of 18 when I joined the MPs I was in
Law Enforcement. After 20 years of it I'm no longer carrying a gun for a living. It had it's moments for sure, but I'm still here. Thanks!
Law Enforcement. After 20 years of it I'm no longer carrying a gun for a living. It had it's moments for sure, but I'm still here. Thanks!
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Getting this troglodyte fired would play into his own beliefs. Let's not suppress his speech, or encourage others to do so. Instead, let's make his behavior as well-known as possible, and let him be judged on the merit of his beliefs.
Let's face it: This guy isn't relevant anyway. He's a professor at a university that I've never given a nanosecond of thought to prior to this discussion. It galls me that he's paid (and probably has tenure) to spew hatred, but that's always been a function of modern universities. Academics who never actually touch base with the real world that exists beyond their rhetoric teach students their beliefs, and some of those students go straight into academia to perpetuate the cycle. The problem is bigger than him, but the solution for him is to inform others of his actions and call attention to the inaccuracy of his beliefs.
You fight disinformation with information, not suppression.
His "pledge" absolutely is offensive and wrong, but rather than giving the appearance of suppressing his freedom of speech, let's expose him to the fact that freedom of speech isn't necessarily freedom from consequences.
I hope that all makes sense.
Let's face it: This guy isn't relevant anyway. He's a professor at a university that I've never given a nanosecond of thought to prior to this discussion. It galls me that he's paid (and probably has tenure) to spew hatred, but that's always been a function of modern universities. Academics who never actually touch base with the real world that exists beyond their rhetoric teach students their beliefs, and some of those students go straight into academia to perpetuate the cycle. The problem is bigger than him, but the solution for him is to inform others of his actions and call attention to the inaccuracy of his beliefs.
You fight disinformation with information, not suppression.
His "pledge" absolutely is offensive and wrong, but rather than giving the appearance of suppressing his freedom of speech, let's expose him to the fact that freedom of speech isn't necessarily freedom from consequences.
I hope that all makes sense.
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So if this speech is anti-American they should be perfectly ok in saying it. They should also be perfectly ok in getting their asses kicked out of a C-130 over Iraq. Right now that is about one of the most unAmerican places you can be.
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This is not isolated.
College professors have been spouting liberal mantra for years, and if you hope to get a passing grade you better learn to parrot it back to them.
Check out a movie called "Indoctrinate U" if you want to learn more about it.
The full version is available on YouTube
College professors have been spouting liberal mantra for years, and if you hope to get a passing grade you better learn to parrot it back to them.
Check out a movie called "Indoctrinate U" if you want to learn more about it.
The full version is available on YouTube
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SPC Jay Wetzel you get a chapter of the Student Veterans of America started on the campus, so veterans know they're not alone, and start to make noise with the university's administration (using specific examples). If THEY won't do anything, you get assistance from your community-level veterans club (VFW, American Legion, Vets for Vets, Sub Vets, etc.) and go to the university system's Board of Regents. If all else fails, it's always a good idea to get local news stations involved...
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Personally, I think he's a douche and can only make a living spilling his liberal dialog to a captive audience dependent on his grade for passing. Hopefully the students who take his class let him think he may know something, get their passing grade, all the while laugh their ass off at how utterly stupid and pathetic the jackwad is.
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SFC (Join to see) The free market answer is: if you don't like his educational requirements, don't take his class. And petition his supervisors to reform the curriculum to offer alternatives that are less discriminatory.
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Capt Richard I P. would this include something done adlib? Something that wasn't already on the syllabus and known by the students?
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Capt Richard I P.
SFC (Join to see) It sounds like its fairly well known, but if it isn't it happened to me in a course I would absolutely have challenged him. If our disagreement reflected in my grades I'd take it up with University management. I guess my point is, it's not the role of government to be involved in curriculum/speech issues. It's up to the university's governing board.
I went to school at the University of Colorado at Boulder. There are many professors there whose political opinions differ from mine, generally they were sophisticated enough to prevent their bias from reflecting in their grading, or I was sophisticated enough to keep our differences in opinion from hurting my grades.
I never had to publicly confront someone for being an idiot, like this, but I would have if I needed to. Bullies generally thrive on submission, and hide from confrontation.
I went to school at the University of Colorado at Boulder. There are many professors there whose political opinions differ from mine, generally they were sophisticated enough to prevent their bias from reflecting in their grading, or I was sophisticated enough to keep our differences in opinion from hurting my grades.
I never had to publicly confront someone for being an idiot, like this, but I would have if I needed to. Bullies generally thrive on submission, and hide from confrontation.
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I'd like to be in his class just to pepper him with all sorts of questions and irritate the crap out of him as much as possible.
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This is America. He may be wrong, but again, this is America. He can say whatever he wants.
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There are limitations to what anyone can say and for good reason. But rather get into that let us focus on the nature of what is happening. Parents spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to have some joker make a fool of this country. No sir, we do agree that freedom of speech is a right, providing it is done off campus rather than indoctrination.
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LTC Paul Labrador
This is not him standing on a corner holding a sign protesting. This is him force feeding his radical political views in a college class where students are held hostage by his ability to give out grades and negatively affect their GPAs and potential future careers.
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I read the pledge, and I think Karl Marx, the co-founder of socialism said it best, "accuse your enemies of what you do".
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SSG (ret) William Martin
Basically, that professor's party does exactly what he is complaining about.
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SSgt (Join to see), exactly what SSG Martin stated. It's the racists/sexists/etc who deflect their own prejudices onto others by calling others racist/sexists/etc.
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