Posted on Dec 8, 2014
Murica? Do you think that it is right for College Students to say Pledge Against the USA?
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I have said it all along but this is just part of a populace that is growing and that is anti-USA. I think it is time for us to put a reality hat and stop with the partisan shenanigans of a small portion of this society. Here below is the utter non-sense:
"If you sign up for Denver college professor Charles Angeletti's American Civilization class, be forewarned that you're going to have to recite his invective-filled 'New Pledge' -- and according to some of his students, also be ready to swallow a big helping of his politics.
Angeletti, who teaches at Metropolitan State University of Denver, has students learn an anti-American spoof of the Pledge of Allegiance that denounces the U.S. as a Republican-controlled bastion of injustice, all while spewing his own far-left brand of politics, according to current and former students.
“I pledge allegiance to and wrap myself in the flag of the United States Against Anything Un-American,” reads Angeletti's version. “And to the Republicans for which it stands, two nations, under Jesus, rich against poor, with curtailed liberty and justice for all except blacks, homosexuals, women who want abortions, Communists, welfare queens, treehuggers, feminazis, illegal immigrants, children of illegal immigrants, and you, if you don't watch your step.”
“We’re very racist, we’re very repressive, we’re very Christian oriented, we don’t tolerate other kinds of thinking in this country.”
- Charles Angeletti, professor at Metropolitan State University
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/08/college-prof-makes-students-recite-anti-american-pledge-allegiance/
What are your views other than it was Fox News? Are you really for America and this? Leave your voting cards at home...
"If you sign up for Denver college professor Charles Angeletti's American Civilization class, be forewarned that you're going to have to recite his invective-filled 'New Pledge' -- and according to some of his students, also be ready to swallow a big helping of his politics.
Angeletti, who teaches at Metropolitan State University of Denver, has students learn an anti-American spoof of the Pledge of Allegiance that denounces the U.S. as a Republican-controlled bastion of injustice, all while spewing his own far-left brand of politics, according to current and former students.
“I pledge allegiance to and wrap myself in the flag of the United States Against Anything Un-American,” reads Angeletti's version. “And to the Republicans for which it stands, two nations, under Jesus, rich against poor, with curtailed liberty and justice for all except blacks, homosexuals, women who want abortions, Communists, welfare queens, treehuggers, feminazis, illegal immigrants, children of illegal immigrants, and you, if you don't watch your step.”
“We’re very racist, we’re very repressive, we’re very Christian oriented, we don’t tolerate other kinds of thinking in this country.”
- Charles Angeletti, professor at Metropolitan State University
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/08/college-prof-makes-students-recite-anti-american-pledge-allegiance/
What are your views other than it was Fox News? Are you really for America and this? Leave your voting cards at home...
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I am all for being presented differing views and seeing other ways but not being forced into reciting something like this.
As a college student you should be presented different view points so that you can see how they affect things.
I really don't get this professors line of thinking though because he is saying its his way or the highway.
I mean look at America, for a young country, compared to the rest of the world we are very much open minded and progressive in our every day way of life. Yes we do make mistakes, yes we do have people who hate too much for their own reasons, yes we do have people who want everything to be perfect. We are a young nation, we have been in existence formally for just over 200 years and, in my opinion, we have come further in human relations than any other nation on the face of the planet. We still have a ways to go but we will keep pushing to make things better and we will stumble from time to time and that's why we are a great nation.
As a college student you should be presented different view points so that you can see how they affect things.
I really don't get this professors line of thinking though because he is saying its his way or the highway.
I mean look at America, for a young country, compared to the rest of the world we are very much open minded and progressive in our every day way of life. Yes we do make mistakes, yes we do have people who hate too much for their own reasons, yes we do have people who want everything to be perfect. We are a young nation, we have been in existence formally for just over 200 years and, in my opinion, we have come further in human relations than any other nation on the face of the planet. We still have a ways to go but we will keep pushing to make things better and we will stumble from time to time and that's why we are a great nation.
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PO1 Glenn Boucher Hey Glen, nice to see you again, and I would not be against as much, if we did Canada, Mexico, and the USA. thanks friend.
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This whole topic is like spending one's entire life railing against something you do not believe in. I do not believe in BigFoot and I do not care if there were a million churches, synagogues or mosques, I will not believe it nor spend hours arguing against it.
If I do as many do here thinking that they can spark some new debate and thus end religion, well you can't.
If I do as many do here thinking that they can spark some new debate and thus end religion, well you can't.
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Is it right? NO! Do they have the right, yes, unfortunately they do. This is the difference between freedom and fascism. If we were a fascist country, any denounce mentioned would result in imprisonment....and even death. Our liberal professors are educating, provoking and influencing our young people's minds. Most professors were educated by like minded liberal professors. It is one thing to make a young mind think for themselves, but another thing to make they say the Pledge allegiance against the US...were I a bit more fascist...I'd be visiting this professor.
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I believe that every American CITIZEN has the right under the Constitution to say and think as they wish. However if you are NOT a CITIZEN then those rights should not cover you. You are a guest in our house. If you do not like what is said or thought here, then you should leave.
If you are a CITIZEN and are so Anti-American then you need to live in a foreign country and make statements about that country like that and see how well you are accepted.
In this country, freedoms are protected by the Military personnel who believe in it. If as a guest you don't feel that way, you are more then welcome to go home. Oh you came from a country who persecuted you because of your beliefs, then why did you come to this country only to persecute us because of our beliefs. Coming here LEGALLY and becoming a CITIZEN affords you the rights under the constitution to say and believe whatever you want.
If you are a CITIZEN and are so Anti-American then you need to live in a foreign country and make statements about that country like that and see how well you are accepted.
In this country, freedoms are protected by the Military personnel who believe in it. If as a guest you don't feel that way, you are more then welcome to go home. Oh you came from a country who persecuted you because of your beliefs, then why did you come to this country only to persecute us because of our beliefs. Coming here LEGALLY and becoming a CITIZEN affords you the rights under the constitution to say and believe whatever you want.
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SSgt (Join to see)
See it is not about free speech because you can do that in a protest and even then with limitations. The Westboro Church contingent is a a perfect example. Yes you can say hideous things but you can also be called out on it which is an expression of free speech as well.
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I don't agree with what he says. It happens everyday. People get a position of power to preach their ideals. We have to look at the change that has been happening in our country the past 10 years. Thus no longer our grandparents post WWII country of pride and joy of the USA. This is a post Vietnam era, well not as bad but you get my jist. It goes in cycles and unfortunately some have forgot the pillars of what this country was founded. All of us. Because you don't agree is no reason to persecute the guy like some of you are. Disagree intelligently and rational. If we don't then what makes us different in our thought process then a Stalin, Hitler, Hussain, or even the now ISIS. If they don't believe what we believe then deport, ostracize, velittle, and name call. This where it all starts with thought process. Remember what those stars and stripes mean, the statue of liberty represents, and our founding fathers intent was.
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You mentioned Pillars. Fix the pillars and there is nothing wrong with pride in our work. Look at the cars that came out during the 1970s, crap. The 60s were over and Carter's efforts make the military weak and ineffective. Morale was low. My dad was called a baby killer in school and I punched that guy in the nose.
When we let idiots like that continue on, it only gets worse. How bad do want it to get before we stand up to the PC bullies and rectify past wrongs. You have to stand for nothing or you stand for nothing at all. I have the right to vilify if I so choose. The professor was vilifying us, in our kids classes and we stand idly by and remain mute?
I will be 59 soon and I see what happens when people go along with the bad thing. I went in in 1974 and saw enough to know my thinking isn't fallacious because I know what weakness does: See Russia/USSR and China!
When we let idiots like that continue on, it only gets worse. How bad do want it to get before we stand up to the PC bullies and rectify past wrongs. You have to stand for nothing or you stand for nothing at all. I have the right to vilify if I so choose. The professor was vilifying us, in our kids classes and we stand idly by and remain mute?
I will be 59 soon and I see what happens when people go along with the bad thing. I went in in 1974 and saw enough to know my thinking isn't fallacious because I know what weakness does: See Russia/USSR and China!
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I'm not disagreeing at all and nothing wrong with standing for what you believe in. Ask my friends, I can't even spell PC more less act it. I am a God loving, American Pie eating, 20 year recent retiree. Public schools don't even say the pledge where I live and ya it is disgusting, they don't pray in school I got it to my friend and I don't like the change in mentality but a lot of people are forgetting the right we have as citizens and that is why I truly love this country. I should be able to say screw the pledge, the flag, the Christian God, and know I'm not going to get my ass kicked or killed because my founding fathers said I could and made it so. We don't have to agree but we have to keep the ideal alive or we become apart of the problem jot the solution.
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I put Murica because that seems a high tech way of diminishing other's beliefs. I have been called stupid and that I should not breed this evening showing me the open-minded are not as open-minded as they would like to think.
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And here the complaints in Colorado at the so-called 'whitewashing' of history. And I cannot see how respect is a bad thing in any case.
http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/340-187/26213-colorado-school-board-scraps-plan-to-teach-students-whitewashed-view-of-us-history-after-uproar
http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/340-187/26213-colorado-school-board-scraps-plan-to-teach-students-whitewashed-view-of-us-history-after-uproar
Colorado School Board Scraps Plan to Teach Students Whitewashed View of U.S. History After Uproar...
'A battle over teaching American history that stirred student protests and kindled a debate about censorship in schools reached an emotional climax on Thursday night.' Jack Healy, NYT
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The following is by a liberal and suggesting respect and why that might be.
http://www.bu.edu/bostonia/fall13/conservative/
http://www.bu.edu/bostonia/fall13/conservative/
How a liberal learned to respect conservative thinking | Bostonia
(and accept the fact that, yes, the right is happier than the left)
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My 2nd protects his 1st. Until the day a jackbooted thug kicks in his door without a warrant for his arrest and detention, and he's pulled out of his home as he protests "I'm a loyal party member!"
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I think the professor was NOT making the students pledge anything; he was pointing out that a lot of folks in this country, all the way across the political spectrum, ARE guilty of thinking that this "anti-pledge" is what being a patriot is all about. It only takes a little bit of editing to make this ant-pledge an extreme right-wing rant that's just as intolerable as this one.
He also inadvertently pointed out an appalling lack of ability to actually READ and THINK before commenting that has become pervasive throughout our society and has done more damage than any external threat could.
He also inadvertently pointed out an appalling lack of ability to actually READ and THINK before commenting that has become pervasive throughout our society and has done more damage than any external threat could.
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SSgt (Join to see)
You have to keep things in context and judge his larger body of work. which suggests something far more sinister. imho. And of course, your answer indicates a latent attitude towards others who do not agree with you?
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SR Tom Lienert
Only if they get abusive and obnoxious. I have a lot of friends who disagree with me on various issues.
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